Freeman-on-the-land idiocies

[SpineyNorman]

 

[Serge Forward]

Peter Hook for me.

I'm sure he improved in later years, but the times I saw him at Warsaw/Joy Division gigs, he really didn't impress.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Flea can play a bit too

 

[two sheds]

Ta - I missed out on Joy Division

Tony Levin has to get a mention too - anyone who can play alongside Bruford and Fripp with any idea of what note they're going to play next and when has my admiration

 

[Voley]

Example? Interested to hear.

I love the low from-the-bowels-of-the-earth grumbling stuff he does in Joy Division like that clip above but I might even prefer it when he plays a bass like a lead guitar.

There are a few New Order songs where he's got the main melody. Unmistakable sound.

 

[Voley]

Going to see him in a couple of weeks time. Current set is half an hour of early New Order stuff, both Joy Division albums in their entirety, encore. Really looking forward to it.

 

[SpineyNorman]

Going to see him in a couple of weeks time. Current set is half an hour of early New Order stuff, both Joy Division albums in their entirety, encore. Really looking forward to it.

Sounds great! Suffers really badly with back pain apparently (saw him talking about it in an interview recently) so that's even more impressive set length than it sounds! Let us know what it's like

 

[Bus Honeygun]

Mate of mine in Glastonbury saw this posted outside of a house around the corner from him. They also have a fucking Russian flag flying. I'm no lawyer, but this is jibber-jabber isn't it?

 

[Storm Fox]

There is a website here. Universal Community Trust | Home
Which to me is a mish-mash of new-age woo and libertarian BS; plus an immediate 'House' on Conspiraloon bingo.

• We are bombarded with propaganda via mainstream media telling us unbelievable things are true, when we can see and know the opposite is in fact true.
• We have been fooled with covid-1984, where our human rights and freedoms have been stolen under the guise of the covid hoax.
• Criminally corrupt politicians have repeatedly voted in covid restrictions, despite overwhelming scientific evidence that these are completely unnecessary, and cause more harm and death than save lives.
• Politicians, corporations and the military are increasingly, and suspiciously, in cahoots, ushering in a controlled, surveilled, totalitarian future for ordinary people.
• Greedy banksters have created money out of thin air and keep us in debt slavery for most of our lives, profiting off us and getting richer, while ordinary people struggle to survive in this rigged system.
• Big Pharma, with the backing of governments and ‘friends’ in high places, are intent on injecting you with multiple DNA-altering, sterilizing vaccines and pumping you full of harmful medicines which will maim or kill many of us while they profit.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Mate of mine in Glastonbury saw this posted outside of a house around the corner from him. They also have a fucking Russian flag flying. I'm no lawyer, but this is jibber-jabber isn't it?

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It’s a straight C&P from the loony internet, just with an official looking font.

 

[kenny g]

It’s a straight C&P from the loony internet, just with an official looking font.

You can remove implied rights of access. I have done it and had acknowledgement from TV licensing so if they come off the pavement and onto my drive they are now trespassing. I did this when they sent one of their " we will visit" letters. Obviously if they get a warrant then they can get access using the rights provided by warrant. That poster is mainly twaddle - including the nonsense about constables. PACE entry powers are going to have a bit more force than that crap. Having said that you could remove implied rights from the police if you objected to them delivering leaflets or generally being community Bobby types as used to happen in the past.

 

[Bus Honeygun]

It’s a straight C&P from the loony internet, just with an official looking font.

Fonts make all the difference. I chanced upon some racist academic bollocks online once from someone calling themselves the Centre for Historical Research or something equally ridiculous. A load of antisemitic shite with a laughably flawed premise even before you got to the thrust of their argument, but it was in Times New Roman 10 point and it had footnotes, so you could tell it was a properly researched and authoritative bit of writing, not the ramblings of a lonely crank.

 

[rubbershoes]

Mate of mine in Glastonbury saw this posted outside of a house around the corner from him. They also have a fucking Russian flag flying. I'm no lawyer, but this is jibber-jabber isn't it?





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It's so they can say any letters from the court /HMRC etc have been illegally delivered and are therefore invalid.

Bollocks from start to finish

 

[likesfish]

this doesn't work unfortunately the muppet was legally parked so. Couldn't ticket him.

 

[Storm Fox]

View attachment 318795this doesn't work unfortunately the muppet was legally parked so. Couldn't ticket him.

It's definitely not going to work in public areas. Could the possibly work in a private car park?
I assume not, but it may be interesting to go through court, if something similar hasn't before, as one private individual has terms similar to the terms the private parking companies put up on private land.

 

[likesfish]

Tbf and not speaking for my corporate employers. Private company's tend to make there own rules up. They get paid to enforce and then collect any fines they deliver

 

[Puddy_Tat]

It's definitely not going to work in public areas. Could the possibly work in a private car park?

i'm not a lawyer or anything resembling one, but not sure how far you would get parking somewhere the owner of the land has conditions for parking there and you claim you have your own conditions that over-ride them.

 

[platinumsage]

Imagine getting on a train without a ticket and then showing the guard a notice like that and demanding £250 for being asked to show your ticket. Pretty sure the magistrate would find it amusing.

 

[Storm Fox]

i'm not a lawyer or anything resembling one, but not sure how far you would get parking somewhere the owner of the land has conditions for parking there and you claim you have your own conditions that over-ride them.

Yeah, I'm not going to try it, but I wondered if it more chance than normal. With normal being Zero.

 

[pogofish]

It's definitely not going to work in public areas. Could the possibly work in a private car park?
I assume not, but it may be interesting to go through court, if something similar hasn't before, as one private individual has terms similar to the terms the private parking companies put up on private land.

I think that the private operator could reasonably (for once) argue that by choosing to park there, their equally fantastical T&Cs would take precedence. Still, the idea of a PPC and a FOTLer slugging it out in court is all-win as far as I'm concerned!

About the only time I've seen something remotely like this work was in the private residential context, where a resident is able to remove PPC access to their space under the "Quiet Enjoyment" aspect of their lease - but it could only work where a designated parking space was included in the lease/tenancy agreement, not access to an unspecified space in a car park.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Mate of mine in Glastonbury saw this posted outside of a house around the corner from him. They also have a fucking Russian flag flying. I'm no lawyer, but this is jibber-jabber isn't it?

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Dogshit through the letterbox

 

[DaveCinzano]

View attachment 318795this doesn't work unfortunately the muppet was legally parked so. Couldn't ticket him.

Brick through the windscreen

 

[DaveCinzano]

Sorted

 

[Storm Fox]

Brick through the windscreen

As long as you wrap a note around the brick stating his windscreen prevented from exercising your rights to hurl bricks about and you are now fining them £250 for damage to the brick and another £500 for the windscreen infringing on your rights as laid out by Common Law Statute, you'll be fine.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Some quality fuckwittery here

 

[cupid_stunt]

Some quality fuckwittery here

That is beautiful, proper comedy gold.

 

[gentlegreen]

Prosecuted 4 times for aggravated burglary.

I wonder if the "Gas Safe engineer" will be liable for doing the illegal installation ?

 

[petee]

from the states, pix in article

"Now, these sovereign citizens often make their grift look vaguely official, to make them more believable as a legal defense, but that often ends in boring fakeries that don’t quite look official or anything like the real thing. But some who ascribed to this fringe theory have brought a little flair to their fake (and very illegal) license plates"

At Least Sovereign Citizens' Pretend License Plates Look Cool Now

If you're going to make a fake license plate to go with your fake driver's license, why make it bland?

jalopnik.com

I can speak to one bit of it, there is in there what appears to be a misspelling of this, where I live

Lenapehoking - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

the other place names are Chicago and

Nacotchtank - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Poot]

I'd never encountered a Freeman of the Land in the wild until about a month ago when I encountered one in the exercise of my work. Now my every waking bloody minute is taken up with the bastard.

I'm not allowed to address him as Mr R___ because apparently his surname isn't legal and mister is the lowest form of address on a ship whereas he is a captain of his own, I dunno, destiny or something. In desperation I've started referring to him as Captain Birdseye. He doesn't have a ship, though, he has some fields and a house.

Joking aside, there's something very sad about the whole thing. He's clearly afflicted with severe mental illness and I spotted a veiled threat to kill me in one of his documents (all written in that weird pseudolegal twaddle exhibited in several posts here). It's not the sign of a happy individual and I'll be very glad when the job is over and I can go back to the usual mundane 'get orff my laaand' bollocks.

 

[Sasaferrato]

I'd never encountered a Freeman of the Land in the wild until about a month ago when I encountered one in the exercise of my work. Now my every waking bloody minute is taken up with the bastard.

I'm not allowed to address him as Mr R___ because apparently his surname isn't legal and mister is the lowest form of address on a ship whereas he is a captain of his own, I dunno, destiny or something. In desperation I've started referring to him as Captain Birdseye. He doesn't have a ship, though, he has some fields and a house.

Joking aside, there's something very sad about the whole thing. He's clearly afflicted with severe mental illness and I spotted a veiled threat to kill me in one of his documents (all written in that weird pseudolegal twaddle exhibited in several posts here). It's not the sign of a happy individual and I'll be very glad when the job is over and I can go back to the usual mundane 'get orff my laaand' bollocks.

If he has threatened you, perhaps a report to the police would get him the help he needs?