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"Freak like me" by "The Sugababes" is the greatest "Pop" song of the last 20 years

I fucking love pop with all my heart. Was meant to see Taylor Swift twice this year, I was so excited.
 
killer b said:
Anyway, it's this

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Definitely not better than Crazy in Love, Toxic, or Firework, but it's not bad. Apart from the intro that could be practically any song.

Looking through my playlists, I remembered that Ellie Goulding's Starry Eyed is actually fucking awesome. Lots of vocal effects, used for good effect not just to cover a weak voice.



FWIW I'm not sure that most of the tracks being from the 2000s rather than the 2010s is just because we're old - it's because that's when Ed Sheeran and the like started to take over.
 
ska invita said:
fuck, so even less creativity :facepalm:
i wonder if that mash up producer got any publishing credits/points/money - im guessing zero
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I know a few people have said how Richard X made the original We Don't Give a Damn About Our Friends bootleg, couldn't officially release it as he couldn't clear the vocal sample, so re-recorded it with the Sugarbabes, making both their careers. But since I like Richard X I thought I'd go on about him some more, especially as he did some great pop songs in the 00s.

He started as one of the founders of that mashup scene. Another of his early ones is I Wanna Dance With Numbers, mixing Whitney Houston with Kraftwerk:



After the Sugarbabes track blew up and he did similar with Popstars runners up Liberty X (mixing Chaka Khan with Human League) and others making him one of the most in demand pop producers of the time. He also continued producing club tracks like Tiga's Burning Down, which was massive on a certain kind of dancefloor:



Moving into his own productions and away from mashups he came up with the song Some Girls:



The record company was undecided between Geri Halliwell and Rachel Stevens recording the song. When it went to Stevens, Halliwell locked herself in her car and refused to come out unless they changed their mind. Richard X responded by writing a song about Halliwell, Me plus One, which was on Annie's first album:



Annie is one of the big never-quite-made-its of 00s pop, partly due to her (she's always so lifeless in her videos), partly due to label politics and partly down to bad luck. She did loads of stuff with Richard X and there's music journalists who still maintain that their Heatbeat should've been a hit (it peaked at no. 50 in the charts). They did loads of great pop songs together that in a just world would've been huge, but failed to chart. If Songs Remind Me of You had been released by Girls Aloud it would've been guaranteed a top ten place:



Richard X also produced records for M.I.A, Roisin Murphy, St Etienne, Goldfrapp, Erasure and Will Young, so he did okay for himself. Last seen producing a rubbish indie rock album last year.
 
I remember doing a temp job the summer this came out, with radio 1 playing in the room. This was on virtually every other song, and it's an incredibly good pop record.



I've paid next to no attention to their subsequent careers.
 
Spandex said:
I know a few people have said how Richard X made the original We Don't Give a Damn About Our Friends bootleg, couldn't officially release it as he couldn't clear the vocal sample, so re-recorded it with the Sugarbabes, making both their careers. But since I like Richard X I thought I'd go on about him some more, especially as he did some great pop songs in the 00s.

He started as one of the founders of that mashup scene. Another of his early ones is I Wanna Dance With Numbers, mixing Whitney Houston with Kraftwerk:



After the Sugarbabes track blew up and he did similar with Popstars runners up Liberty X (mixing Chaka Khan with Human League) and others making him one of the most in demand pop producers of the time. He also continued producing club tracks like Tiga's Burning Down, which was massive on a certain kind of dancefloor:



Moving into his own productions and away from mashups he came up with the song Some Girls:



The record company was undecided between Geri Halliwell and Rachel Stevens recording the song. When it went to Stevens, Halliwell locked herself in her car and refused to come out unless they changed their mind. Richard X responded by writing a song about Halliwell, Me plus One, which was on Annie's first album:



Annie is one of the big never-quite-made-its of 00s pop, partly due to her (she's always so lifeless in her videos), partly due to label politics and partly down to bad luck. She did loads of stuff with Richard X and there's music journalists who still maintain that their Heatbeat should've been a hit (it peaked at no. 50 in the charts). They did loads of great pop songs together that in a just world would've been huge, but failed to chart. If Songs Remind Me of You had been released by Girls Aloud it would've been guaranteed a top ten place:



Richard X also produced records for M.I.A, Roisin Murphy, St Etienne, Goldfrapp, Erasure and Will Young, so he did okay for himself. Last seen producing a rubbish indie rock album last year.
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There’s a song in there somewhere
 
Spandex said:
I know a few people have said how Richard X made the original We Don't Give a Damn About Our Friends bootleg, couldn't officially release it as he couldn't clear the vocal sample, so re-recorded it with the Sugarbabes, making both their careers. But since I like Richard X I thought I'd go on about him some more, especially as he did some great pop songs in the 00s.

He started as one of the founders of that mashup scene. Another of his early ones is I Wanna Dance With Numbers, mixing Whitney Houston with Kraftwerk:



After the Sugarbabes track blew up and he did similar with Popstars runners up Liberty X (mixing Chaka Khan with Human League) and others making him one of the most in demand pop producers of the time. He also continued producing club tracks like Tiga's Burning Down, which was massive on a certain kind of dancefloor:



Moving into his own productions and away from mashups he came up with the song Some Girls:



The record company was undecided between Geri Halliwell and Rachel Stevens recording the song. When it went to Stevens, Halliwell locked herself in her car and refused to come out unless they changed their mind. Richard X responded by writing a song about Halliwell, Me plus One, which was on Annie's first album:



Annie is one of the big never-quite-made-its of 00s pop, partly due to her (she's always so lifeless in her videos), partly due to label politics and partly down to bad luck. She did loads of stuff with Richard X and there's music journalists who still maintain that their Heatbeat should've been a hit (it peaked at no. 50 in the charts). They did loads of great pop songs together that in a just world would've been huge, but failed to chart. If Songs Remind Me of You had been released by Girls Aloud it would've been guaranteed a top ten place:



Richard X also produced records for M.I.A, Roisin Murphy, St Etienne, Goldfrapp, Erasure and Will Young, so he did okay for himself. Last seen producing a rubbish indie rock album last year.
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Yet more proof that anything written with both knowledge of the subject and passion with conviction can be interesting and informative.
 
POP Music.

Popular music. Rated in sales. Biggest selling song of last 20 years is shape of you by Ed. Sheeran, therefore. That is the best pop song.
 
Cos' it's all about the Sugababes...



I know she's been mentioned on here already but without links and this thread needs some Lizzo



Thinking of songs my daughter will dance to at parties...



I like this even if it's mostly a sample...

 
Plumdaff said:
Cos' it's all about the Sugababes...



I know she's been mentioned on here already but without links and this thread needs some Lizzo



Thinking of songs my daughter will dance to at parties...



I like this even if it's mostly a sample...

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Yes.
 
Boris Sprinkler said:
POP Music.

Popular music. Rated in sales. Biggest selling song of last 20 years is shape of you by Ed. Sheeran, therefore. That is the best pop song.
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The pitiful Shape of You is only top based on 'combined sales', including number of times people have streamed it. Could be a limited number of fans playing it repeatedly. In terms of people actually paying, it's not even in the top 40 best selling singles since the millennial. By that measure the best is Pharrell's Happy.
 
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