Filth by name. . .

[equationgirl]

Don't know how that's going to work. People tend to call the police when someone is acting dangerously or weirdly in a public place (section 136) or if neighbors or people in a dwelling feel a person needs help (section 135). I did 5 years of acute admissions and had a lot of dealings with the police. a member of CRT is not going to be able legally to bring someone to a place of safety if they don't want to.

I think he's trying to force the NHS management (in London at least) to bring in a programme called Right Care, Right Person which has been trialled in Humberside successfully.

 

[Ming]

I think he's trying to force the NHS management (in London at least) to bring in a programme called Right Care, Right Person which has been trialled in Humberside successfully.

Yeah I read about it. I'll have to have a closer look. Thing is unless you've got a doctor and a SW it's only the police who have the legal power to bring a person (often against their will) to a place of safety to be assessed. CRT can call up a medic and SW if they think it's necessary but you often need the cops to get them there.

Eta. The doc+SW are for the section. You still need the cops to get them to A&E or the holding cells of the local station if they are resistive.

 

[RedRedRose]

Somewhat sympathetic with the police on this one, lack of healthcare provisions have basically meant they are taking the most acute and volatile cases on. And its clear they are not tasked for that.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Somewhat sympathetic with the police on this one, lack of healthcare provisions have basically meant they are taking the most acute and volatile cases on. And its clear they are not tasked for that.

Same police that kick our heads in if we protest against austerity and cuts?

Imagine the NHS just saying they're not going to do acute psychiatric care any more, or any other part of their job. Wouldn't happen, because nobody but the filth would get away with it.

 

[RedRedRose]

Please Protect Abraham – Met failures/witness protection failures

A link to this BBC R4 series probably belongs here, about Abraham Badru, who bravely testified in a rape trial and was later murdered, having received death threats from associates of the criminals he helped send to jail. Abraham was utterly failed by any sort of witness protection and one of the biggest failings was on the part of the Met, both in terms of failure to take action and in record-keeping of what little action they did take. Or failure to produce such records in court.

BBC Sounds - Please Protect Abraham - Available Episodes

Listen to the latest episodes of Please Protect Abraham on BBC Sounds.

www.bbc.co.uk

It’s a long and slightly complicated story. He was never given a risk assessment. If you don’t want to listen to the whole thing, at least listen to episode 9, about the inquest, where the fatal inaction of the police is highlighted from about 6 minutes in:
Please Protect Abraham - 9. Inquest - BBC Sounds

Note how the DI (Jonathan Birks? Burkes?) giving written evidence ‘updates’ his first statement which conveniently downplayed the extent of police knowledge of the seriousness of Abraham’s risk before the trial - presumably having had his memory jogged when subsequently shown letters he wrote at the time. There are glaring omissions and contradictions: the officer says he never saw evidence of death threats but Abraham’s mother was there when he was shown the texts; the officer says Abraham declined special measures and opted to give evidence in open court but his mother said he was never given the option.

Also shocking is the police inaction later, when Abraham requests police assistance following acts of intimidation by associates of the criminals.

How can the Met deny it’s institutionally racist?

Finally got round to listening to all of this. Very harrowing how Abraham and his family were treated.

 

[equationgirl]

Well Sir Mark Rowley's ultimatum (for want of a better word, sorry, brain not working) has not gone down well - both a former Inspector of Constabulary and MIND have expressed grave concerns over the plan:

Metropolitan Police: Move to attend fewer mental health calls sparks alarm

A former inspector of constabulary says sending officers to fewer 999 calls is "potentially alarming".

www.bbc.co.uk

They're concerned that people needing care the most will be let down just when they need it.

Unless mental health funding is boosted, a catastrophe is on the horizon.

 

[Ming]

Well Sir Mark Rowley's ultimatum (for want of a better word, sorry, brain not working) has not gone down well - both a former Inspector of Constabulary and MIND have expressed grave concerns over the plan:

Metropolitan Police: Move to attend fewer mental health calls sparks alarm

A former inspector of constabulary says sending officers to fewer 999 calls is "potentially alarming".

www.bbc.co.uk

They're concerned that people needing care the most will be let down just when they need it.

Unless mental health funding is boosted, a catastrophe is on the horizon.

It's all part of the long tried and tested way to privatise the public sphere. Deliberately underfund it until it becomes ineffective, tell the gullible public through the media that it's because the old model is not fit for purpose and then sell it off under the excuse that the private sphere is more efficient. Defund/fang any oversight bodies to make them ineffective. Rinse/repeat.

Then get the real money after you've left office.

 

[GarveyLives]

A 91-year old woman had a Taser pointed at her and a mesh spit hood put over her head by Metropolitan Police officers after a dispute with her carer.

The distressed elderly woman allegedly spat at one officer when police were called to her home in Peckham, south-east London, on 9 May 2023, the Metropolitan Police said:

Metropolitan Police handcuffed and placed a spit hood over the head of a dementia sufferer in her 90s in south London.

"A former senior Metropolitan Police officer said he didn't understand why such force had to be used on a clearly vulnerable, elderly woman - adding that the restraint could have been fatal."

 

[equationgirl]

Yeah, she could have been killed very easily. Don't the police understand that dementia causes behavioural problems?

 

[savoloysam]

If you can't restrain (if needed)a 91 year old woman who isn't carrying a gun without a tazer you're clearly in the wrong job.

 

[Pickman's model]

If you can't restrain (if needed)a 91 year old woman who isn't carrying a gun without a tazer you're clearly in the wrong job.

yes, what's the point having pepper spray and an extendable baton or night stick if you're not prepared to use them?

 

[tony.c]

Former Bridgend police officer Lewis Edwards pleads guilty to 106 child sexual offences.

Bridgend: Former police officer Lewis Edwards pleads guilty to over 100 child sexual offences

A former police officer has pleaded guilty to more than a hundred charges of child sexual offences. Lewis Edwards, 23, appeared at Cardiff Crown Court on Friday charged with a total of 106 offences, which included inciting children to make indecent images online and to engage in sexual...

www.uk.yahoo.com

 

[savoloysam]

Ffs

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Former Bridgend police officer Lewis Edwards pleads guilty to 106 child sexual offences.

Bridgend: Former police officer Lewis Edwards pleads guilty to over 100 child sexual offences

A former police officer has pleaded guilty to more than a hundred charges of child sexual offences. Lewis Edwards, 23, appeared at Cardiff Crown Court on Friday charged with a total of 106 offences, which included inciting children to make indecent images online and to engage in sexual...

www.uk.yahoo.com

Assistant Chief Constable Danny Richards said the offences could damage the public's trust in policing.

Surely not!

 

[Dystopiary]

A Gwent police officer sexually assaulted a woman at a social event in Cardiff on 19 December 2022. PC Benjamin French quit Gwent Police a day before a disciplinary panel was convened.

Like clockwork:

He claimed it was a "joke" and "alcohol played a significant part in his behaviour."

Chief Constable Pam Kelly, who has previously stated that misogynist, racist and homophobic behaviour isn't representative of Gwent police officers, said:

"He states there was no sexual motivation and believes that he did it as a joke,"

"He thought it would be funny when clearly it is not."

No it's not, but perpetrators of sexual assault use the "joke" excuse again and again, which strongly suggests that they believe it'll be seen as some sort of mitigation. That's part of the problem.

Gwent police officer quits after grabbing colleague's bottom at party

 

[GarveyLives]

Tomorrow, former PC Jade Ebanks of the Metropolitan Police will appear before Westminster Magistrates' Court charged with five counts of rape which are reported to have occurred between 2018 and 2020 in Ealing and Hillingdon and involve the same victim.

Former PC Jade Ebanks joined the Metropolitan Police in June 2021 and was attached to North West Basic Command Unit. He was arrested on 5 May 2022 as part of an investigation by officers from the South West Public Protection Unit.

PC Jade Ebanks resigned from the Metropolitan Police on 21 April 2023.

 

[equationgirl]

If a police officer resigns before disciplinary action is taken, do they get to keep their pension?

 

[agricola]

If a police officer resigns before disciplinary action is taken, do they get to keep their pension?

At the moment yes, unless they are convicted of an offence above a certain level.

 

[equationgirl]

At the moment yes, unless they are convicted of an offence above a certain level.

I'm conflicted about that, I must admit.

 

[GarveyLives]

On 26 May 2023, serving Metropolitan Police officer PC Samuel McGregor, who is attached to the Central North Command Unit, appeared at Westminster Magistrates’ Court charged with one count of rape in relation to an incident on 11 May 2021, which was reported to police on 3 June 2021.

PC Samuel McGregor was arrested on 4 June 2021, and is currently suspended.

PC Samuel McGregor of Alice Close, Barnet, was released on conditional bail until the next hearing at Inner London Crown Court on 23 June 2023.

 

[equationgirl]

I'm sure this article will come as no surprise to the posters on this thread - black people three times more likely to be issued with Covid fines and those in poorer areas SEVEN times more likely to receive fines.

Bias, much?

Black people were three times more likely to receive Covid fines in England and Wales

Exclusive: those in poorest areas were seven times more likely to be fined, finds research into how police used emergency powers

www.theguardian.com

 

[sim667]

Well Sir Mark Rowley's ultimatum (for want of a better word, sorry, brain not working) has not gone down well - both a former Inspector of Constabulary and MIND have expressed grave concerns over the plan:

Metropolitan Police: Move to attend fewer mental health calls sparks alarm

A former inspector of constabulary says sending officers to fewer 999 calls is "potentially alarming".

www.bbc.co.uk

They're concerned that people needing care the most will be let down just when they need it.

Unless mental health funding is boosted, a catastrophe is on the horizon.

I think if most people turned round and said “I’m not going to do 70% of my workload any longer” there’d be questions asked.

Let’s not wrap it in cotton wool, people will die because of this policy.

 

[equationgirl]

I think if most people turned round and said “I’m not going to do 70% of my workload any longer” there’d be questions asked.

Let’s not wrap it in cotton wool, people will die because of this policy.

Yes, I think you're right - sadly people will die because of this policy, people that needn't die but will because they're not helped when they need it the most.

 

[tony.c]

Former Met Police officer on trial for rape of 16 year old girl and a female police officer.

Ex-Met Police officer accused of rapes denies being ‘Jekyll and Hyde’ abuser

A former Metropolitan Police officer accused of being a serial rapist has denied claims he is a “Jekyll and Hyde” character and told a court the alleged victims are lying about being abused. Adam Provan, 43, is accused of twice raping a 16-year-old girl when they met for a date in 2010, at a...

www.uk.yahoo.com

 

[Pickman's model]

Well Sir Mark Rowley's ultimatum (for want of a better word, sorry, brain not working) has not gone down well - both a former Inspector of Constabulary and MIND have expressed grave concerns over the plan:

Metropolitan Police: Move to attend fewer mental health calls sparks alarm

A former inspector of constabulary says sending officers to fewer 999 calls is "potentially alarming".

www.bbc.co.uk

They're concerned that people needing care the most will be let down just when they need it.

Unless mental health funding is boosted, a catastrophe is on the horizon.

Rather gives the lie to the claim the police are there to help people

 

[tony.c]

Glasgow police officer charged with removing number plates from his Jaguar XE and stealing fuel.

Police officer accused of repeatedly stealing fuel

A POLICE officer is accused of repeatedly removing his licence plates and stealing fuel.

www.glasgowtimes.co.uk

 

[Dystopiary]

Former Met Police officer on trial for rape of 16 year old girl and a female police officer.

Ex-Met Police officer accused of rapes denies being ‘Jekyll and Hyde’ abuser

A former Metropolitan Police officer accused of being a serial rapist has denied claims he is a “Jekyll and Hyde” character and told a court the alleged victims are lying about being abused. Adam Provan, 43, is accused of twice raping a 16-year-old girl when they met for a date in 2010, at a...

www.uk.yahoo.com

During the trial, the female police officer has said she stayed quiet about the rapes for years because her initial attempts to report Provan to his police bosses for harassment were “swept under the carpet”.

 

[tony.c]

Met defends use of 100 riot police to violently evict 29 homeless people from shelter in Tower Hamlets.

Met Police defends 'heavy-handed' eviction of homeless people from shelter

Around 100 riot police were deployd to evict just 29 people.

www.metro.co.uk

 

[Pickman's model]

Met defends use of 100 riot police to violently evict 29 homeless people from shelter in Tower Hamlets.

Met Police defends 'heavy-handed' eviction of homeless people from shelter

Around 100 riot police were deployd to evict just 29 people.

www.metro.co.uk

this is the sort of thing you'll see more of when the police withdraw from 'assisting' people with mh

 

[savoloysam]

And more people become homeless.