Filth by name. . .
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DaveCinzano
WATCH OUT, GEORGE, HE'S GOT A SCREWDRIVER!
Didn't enjoy being grilled that's for sureUnfortunate name
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
TBF there is enough regulation, at least about their use - above a certain speed (IIRC 15 and a bit MPH) they are to be treated as motor cycles, with all that entails (licence, insurance, numberplate etc).
What is lacking is enforcement on the firms involved (in terms of the bikes capable of doing > 15mph), many of whom are at best described as dubious, and education of the public in the sense of these e-bikes generally. I am not sure they provide any social benefit and the risks from collisions and the batteries burning down peoples homes are way out of proportion to the benefits they bring, if indeed there are any.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Ahem. Police confirm the boys were being followed but the reason they weren't closer was the bollards
Did the police run them down with the van? No.
Did they contribute to the accident in some way? That answer could be Yes.
Cardiff riot: Ely crash death boys were followed by police
Harvey Evans and Kyrees Sullivan died in an electric bike crash, which sparked a riot in Cardiff.
www.bbc.co.uk
Did the police run them down with the van? No.
Did they contribute to the accident in some way? That answer could be Yes.
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equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Some tough questions sandwiched in there.
friedaweed
Me and me girl named Jane
I helped my brother move a load of his stuff into a storage unit last year whilst he was mid house move. In the unit next to his was a young scouse lad building these bikes to order for two and a half grand. He had a website and orders for months in advance. A fair few of these bikes end up used in County Lines activity. Even here in sunny Wrexham you can have your 20 bag delivered to your nearest bus stop by a ballied up yoof on his Merseybike. Certainly more problematic that scooters.
equationgirl
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The Guardian has a timeline and map of the Cardiff incident. The police are now refusing to apologise to the community - epic:
www.theguardian.com
Cardiff police refuse to apologise after saying van was following boys who died
CCTV footage of e-bike puts more pressure on South Wales police who originally said there was no pursuit
savoloysam
Pigman's pigman's ha ha charade you are..
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
What new CCTV tells us of Cardiff teens' final minutes hardly a police chase!good news, they've said no police vehicle - or any other vehicle - was near them at the time of the crash. And there's cctv. So you can drop it now
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
I think that's debatable. The only thing stopping them from directly following the bike was the bollards/railings at the end of the road, so the police van appeared to have been going around the obstacles via the road route. The police have said they were following the bike a mere minute or two before the boys were killed.
The intent to chase/follow/pursue was there even if the physical proximity wasn't. It certainly appears from the CCTV so far that the police van was trying to intercept them further along the road, after the bollards. Allegedly.
RedRedRose
Well-Known Member
Previous enquiries into the number of children strip searched revealed 99 had been carried out in 2021. The Met now indicate this number was inaccurate and the actual number is 271.
Met Police data error sparks fresh concerns over strip searches of children
The Met said a ‘data transmission error’ meant they provided City Hall with ‘incorrect’ information on the number of child strip-searches carried out in 2021www.standard.co.uk
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Would rather not see that word shouting out prominently on a thread like this, or this board even
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh cos they say the van was told of a road traffic incident - the boys crashing - at which point the van put the lights on and went to the crash site. But I find it very difficult to believe that in two minutes someone sees the crash, phones 999, talks to someone, who relays the details to a strangely conveniently located van. There's some bollocks going on there I think
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
You must be watching a different video. Try this one.
Cardiff police refuse to apologise after saying van was following boys who died
CCTV footage of e-bike puts more pressure on South Wales police who originally said there was no pursuit
A witness, whose CCTV captured the police van in Frank Road, said she and their four-year-old niece had had to jump out of the way of the bike and van.
“You could see the boys were panicking and trying to get away from the police,” she said. “The boys were petrified.”
If you want to do semantics (following/chasing) that's up to you. The end result is the same. Two petrified kids ended up dead after being 'followed' (and, according to some, regularly harassed) by the police.
And I don't think this is a thread to talk about regulation of e-bikes. Start your own, those of you who would rather deflect attention away from more obvious police lies.
Oh and add in Harry Stanley, the man with 'a gun' in Hackney that turned out to be a table leg.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Still, all worth it if it keeps a bag of weed off the streets eh?
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
why are you on the side of the police? and why don't you respond to posts to you?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
he's got you on ignorewhy are you on the side of the police? and why don't you respond to posts to you?
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
nah, doubt it
would be a bit shocked if they have
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Police Scotland is a racist and misogynistic institution, says it's chief
But individual officers are not, he also says.
Police Scotland chief says force is institutionally racist
A review recently uncovered first-hand accounts of racism and misogyny by serving officers.
www.bbc.co.uk
But individual officers are not, he also says.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Steve Rodhouse, formerly of Operation Midland (Carl Beech allegations)is to be reinvestigated over an alleged breach of professional standards
www.theguardian.com
Head of Met police VIP paedophile ring inquiry faces investigation
Steve Rodhouse, who led Operation Midland, may have breached professional standards, says police watchdog
tony.c
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Police whistleblower says Bournemouth Police 'Force Support Group' nurtured a culture of 'racist, misogynistic and homophobic' behaviour.
‘Racist’ police ‘pinned Nazi-themed posters on office wall’
Members of a “racist” police squad pinned a poster of skinheads displaying swastikas and giving the Nazi salute on the wall of their station, a police misconduct hearing has been told.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
Content warning for child sexual abuse.
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A former Met police officer has been jailed for sexually abusing a child under the age of 13 at a party.
Farhan Ghadiali, aged 44, was suspended from duty in December 2020, after an investigation was launched by Essex Police. He was sacked earlier this month "after the panel considered the allegations proven to be gross misconduct."
Ghadiali was sentenced to 30 months and made the subject of an indefinite Sexual Harm Prevention Order.
Ex-Met police officer jailed for sexually assaulting a child
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A former Met police officer has been jailed for sexually abusing a child under the age of 13 at a party.
Farhan Ghadiali, aged 44, was suspended from duty in December 2020, after an investigation was launched by Essex Police. He was sacked earlier this month "after the panel considered the allegations proven to be gross misconduct."
Ghadiali was sentenced to 30 months and made the subject of an indefinite Sexual Harm Prevention Order.
Ex-Met police officer jailed for sexually assaulting a child
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Not on side of police, I think they’ve fucked up royally, I just don’t agree that it was a chase.why are you on the side of the police? and why don't you respond to posts to you?
tony.c
Well-Known Member
Not sure if this should be in the Cat and kittens thread. British Transport Police Constable and partner jailed for fraud and breaches of Animal Welfare Act, after selling neglected and sick kittens and claiming to be a vet.
www.mirror.co.uk
Police officer and boyfriend jailed after selling dying kittens in £280,000 scam
Police officer Amy Byrne and her partner Harry Angell were jailed after selling kittens that were malnourished and unwell
www.mirror.co.uk
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
You don't think it was a chase at all, or just at the exact moment of the crash?
The police have admitted they followed them.
tony.c
Well-Known Member
Sir Ian Livingstone, Chief Constable of Police Scotland admits force is institutionally racist and discriminatory.
https//:www.uk.yahoo.com/news/police-scotland-institutionally-racist-discriminatory-123421865.html
https//:www.uk.yahoo.com/news/police-scotland-institutionally-racist-discriminatory-123421865.html
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh whether it is classed as a chase, a pursuit, a chance encounter or simply keeping an eye on the boys is immaterial, from my pov the police played a clear and direct role in what happened shortly after the van was forced to detour
equationgirl
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absolutely, there's no way that the police actions didn't contribute to the crash - as I said yesterday they might not have actually run them down in the van but CCTV clearly shows their actions a mere two minutes prior.
Whatever words were used - and it is just words and word games - police in that van are complicit in the deaths. Given the time that elapsed, how could they not be?
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