Feminism - where are the threads?

[JudithB]

Thank you to all the lovely women who contributed to this and the other threads that thought about women and how we are humans, we do deserve to have our say, our place in the world.

So much has happened in the past few weeks that I would like to talk about but I know I am not able to on these boards. The silencing of women and the threats against us for just wanting to congregate and discuss our sex based rights are now seen as hate speech more than ever. But don't let the bastards get you down.

I hope all threads that speak of women as humans continue to flourish xx

 

[Pickman's model]

So that's a no then JudithB

 

[JudithB]

Oh i posted to you "link"

Dont know where that went

So again Link please

 

[JudithB]

Caveat if it's your usually picky bollox no I am not going to answer

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh i posted to you "link"

Dont know where that went

So again Link please

You're unable to look at post 1590 in which you're tagged, which is immediately before your 1591? How incompetent are you?

 

[JudithB]

You're unable to look at post 1590 in which you're tagged, which is immediately before your 1591? How incompetent are you?

Oops my lady brain

Link please

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

If, like me, you're using a phone you can't see post numbers. So I have no idea what those posts are either.

Seriously tho, JudyB, don't bother. He ain't worth it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Oops my lady brain

Link please

Feminism - where are the threads?

 

[Pickman's model]

If, like me, you're using a phone you can't see post numbers. So I have no idea what those posts are either.

Seriously tho, JudyB, don't bother. He ain't worth it.

If you're using an android phone rotate to landscape, thought you'd have worked it out

 

[JudithB]

If, like me, you're using a phone you can't see post numbers. So I have no idea what those posts are either.

Seriously tho, JudyB, don't bother. He ain't worth it.

I know but... I am trying to be civil

Hey have you seen the aggravation about Newport this evening? After Brighton and the violent tweets with knives, bats, etc, I was very concerned about this meeting of middle aged, mostly lesbian and mothers. JFC!

 

[JudithB]

If you're using an android phone rotate to landscape, thought you'd have worked it out

If you are serious just link the blooming post mate

 

[Pickman's model]

If you are serious just link the blooming post mate

How many links do you want?

 

[JudithB]

Pickman's model finds something to get picky about in 3... 2 ...

 

[JudithB]

How many links do you want?

You brought up the link

Bring your links to my yard

 

[Pickman's model]

You brought up the link

Bring your links to my yard

I have linked to it

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Let me (a woman) do the job properly.

I think this is the question JudithB . I personally don't understand it, but perhaps you can decipher it.

this has been playing on my mind today

I don't think feminism is that at all, it's a very peculiar form of feminism you practice if it's nothing to do with men unless they're rapists or gropers. Doesn't your feminism have anything to say about equality in the workplace or home?

 

[JudithB]

I have linked to it

Silly lady brain cant see a link in that

 

[Pickman's model]

Silly lady brain cant see a link in that

Look up the fucking page

 

[JudithB]

Let me (a woman) do the job properly.

I think this is the question JudithB . I personally don't understand it, but perhaps you can decipher it.

Oh so it's a NAMALT question OK.

 

[FabricLiveBaby!]

Oh so it's a NAMALT question OK.

That's what I understood.

But also "what about men in the workplace/at home and being 'equal' to them.?"

Personally (IMO) under the currents system trying to be equal under an inherently unequal patriarchal/capitalist society is a fool's game. Work, home or otherwise.

That's just me tho.

 

[JudithB]

OK Pickman's model it's not just my feminism, it's what is called feminism. And feminism is basically the want of women to be recognised as human. So that groper in the office or that rapist. Is that something that is peculiar to women? You'll now NAMALT me and also tell me about you or a friend or lots of your friends who are groped by men in the office. And I bet you'll tell me some women have too. But have you ever asked why? That's what feminism is mate. Asking why.

If we could stop men from grabbing us as if we (and I also mean you if it's happened to you or any of your friends) were their property then that would be the same in a workplace as in a home environment.

Women are humans and are raped and abused at work and at home.

Feminism (that doesn't just belong to me) is about stopping the abuse of women due to our biological differences from men. We have two holes, and one of them men penetrate and that fear of penetration from the baddies among you (NAMALT), informs the experiences of all girls and women.

 

[Pickman's model]

That's what I understood.

But also "what about men in the workplace/at home and being 'equal' to them.?"

Personally (IMO) under the currents system trying to be equal under an inherently unequal patriarchal/capitalist society is a fool's game. Work, home or otherwise.

That's just me tho.

Yeh well it's not a namalt question, which is where you're wrong

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh so it's a NAMALT question OK.

No, no it isn't

 

[Pickman's model]

OK Pickman's model it's not just my feminism, it's what is called feminism. And feminism is basically the want of women to be recognised as human. So that groper in the office or that rapist. Is that something that is peculiar to women? You'll now NAMALT me and also tell me about you or a friend or lots of your friends who are groped by men in the office. And I bet you'll tell me some women have too. But have you ever asked why? That's what feminism is mate. Asking why.

If we could stop men from grabbing us as if we (and I also mean you if it's happened to you or any of your friends) were their property then that would be the same in a workplace as in a home environment.

Women are humans and are raped and abused at work and at home.

Feminism (that doesn't just belong to me) is about stopping the abuse of women due to our biological differences from men. We have two holes, and one of them men penetrate and that fear of penetration from the baddies among you (NAMALT), informs the experiences of all girls and women.

No. It's not a namalt question so I won't be acting as you outline. Feminism is basically the want of women to be recognised as human? Recognised by who as human? Presumably men. So it is about a) the relationship between men and women, and b) equality. Which is what I've suggested to you only to be told 'you know nothing, Pickman's model'

 

[Pickman's model]

Feminism - where are the threads?

This was the link I posted, JudithB

Ffi when you link to a post it appears under the thread title

 

[JudithB]

No. It's not a namalt question so I won't be acting as you outline. Feminism is basically the want of women to be recognised as human? Recognised by who as human? Presumably men. So it is about a) the relationship between men and women, and b) equality. Which is what I've suggested to you only to be told 'you know nothing, Pickman's model'

They are not two separate points. a) women are oppressed by men, and b) women are oppressed by men

 

[Pickman's model]

They are not two separate points. a) women are oppressed by men, and b) women are oppressed by men

They are two separate points, as a moment's reflection would show, since there is the relationship between men and women as it is now, and the relationship between men and women as it might be.

 

[JudithB]

Pretending inequality does not exist and is not structured around the oppression of women by men due to their reproductive capacity does not make it go away.

 

[Pickman's model]

Pretending inequality does not exist and is not structured around the oppression of women by men due to their reproductive capacity does not make it go away.

I am not and never have said, suggested or pretended inequality doesn't exist. Do try to engage with what I've said and not what you think I've said.

 

[JudithB]

Pickman's I really don't understand what you are trying to debate and discuss? Oppression of women by men based on their reproductive capacity is real. Inequality between the sexes is real. Yes women would like there to be less inequality. There is nothing new in anything I have stated. None of these statements can be new to you. So what are we meant to be discussing?