Far right tropes: how to spot if your friend is going down the rabbit hole & how to respond

[xenon]

People have been saying you can't say anything these days for at least 20 years. Also see, going to hell in a hand cart. Littlejohn wrote a book with that title in the 90's IIRC> The phrase was certainly uttered with tedious regularity by the likes of him and Peter Hitchens.

Of course if they hadn't privatised the hellbound highway system, opening it up to competetive hand cart franchise tendoring, we might have got there by now...

 

[BigMoaner]

“How come X is allowed to say Y but when we say it…” is another classic of the genre.

 

[moochedit]

Who the fuck do they think pays them ?

George soros probably

 

[hitmouse]

I heard one recently: protesters are only protesting for the money they get out of it. I spoke to my friend about it who thinks this view is fairly common in some places.

From this thread, we learn that according to the Sunday Times the rate was £30 and a packed lunch in 1999, hopefully that rate must've been adjusted to keep up with inflation since then though.

 

[isvicthere?]

People have been saying you can't say anything these days for at least 20 years.

In my experience, when you ask them what you can't say "these days", and what has really happened to someone who said the forbidden, they invariably struggle to give any kind of example, or suggest something which a quick google reveals to be incorrect, or say something vanishingly trivial.

My most recent example was when a keyboard warrior told me of a Bristol University lecturer who had been "sacked" for offending Muslim students who had complained about him. A quick google revealed the university had upheld the lecturer's side in the dispute, and that he was still a member of University staff.

 

[MickiQ]

From this thread, we learn that according to the Sunday Times the rate was £30 and a packed lunch in 1999, hopefully that rate must've been adjusted to keep up with inflation since then though.

I have a friend who volunteers as a casualty for emergency services training. He basically lies down and pretends to be injured/dead so the paramedics/firemen can rescue him.
I imagine paid rioters must be very similar like being a film extra.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I imagine paid rioters must be very similar like being a film extra.

The 'paid rioters' in police public order training exercises at training centres like 'Sandford' (Bruche) are all coppers themselves.

 

[Eivets Rednow]

From this thread, we learn that according to the Sunday Times the rate was £30 and a packed lunch in 1999, hopefully that rate must've been adjusted to keep up with inflation since then though.

What I find most confusing about it is that people don’t assume protesters are doing it out of a sense of justice, love for others, caring for the world. No, it is assumed their motive is selfish?!

 

[Dystopiary]

I remember at a protest someone accused us of being paid by Linda McCartney, among others.

 

[zedr]

I remember at a protest someone accused us of being paid by Linda McCartney, among others.

paid in sausages I hope!

 

[rubbershoes]

What I find most confusing about it is that people don’t assume protesters are doing it out of a sense of justice, love for others, caring for the world. No, it is assumed their motive is selfish?!

Many people believe that deep down others think the same as them. So selfish people think everyone is just out for themselves.

 

[ouirdeaux]

she comes up quite short when asked for a credible example

Well, obviously. Because she's not allowed to say it, and would be immediately liquidated if she did. Duh.

 

[DaveCinzano]

paid in sausages I hope!

Some of us got some of that sweet, sweet Dewhurst Gold

 

[xenon]

I have a friend who volunteers as a casualty for emergency services training. He basically lies down and pretends to be injured/dead so the paramedics/firemen can rescue him.
I imagine paid rioters must be very similar like being a film extra.

Those paid actors can be quite expensive. As Alex Jones has found out.

 

[BigMoaner]

You can’t say anything these days, literally writing it on the fetid racist hellscape that is telegram or something

 

[hitmouse]

What I find most confusing about it is that people don’t assume protesters are doing it out of a sense of justice, love for others, caring for the world. No, it is assumed their motive is selfish?!

Yeah, like rubbershoes says above, that sounds like classic projection/telling on yourself, if you're someone who only ever does things for selfish reasons then it's easy to assume everyone else is the same.

 

[PTK]

From this thread, we learn that according to the Sunday Times the rate was £30 and a packed lunch in 1999, hopefully that rate must've been adjusted to keep up with inflation since then though.

Where do I claim my packed lunch and £30? I missed out.

 

[Eivets Rednow]

Where do I claim my packed lunch and £30? I missed out.

I am pretty sure that even if it hadn’t increased with inflation there would be a cheerfully willing crowd of potential protesters throwing themselves at the opportunity to tie themselves to trees for a daily fee of £30 and lunch. I mean, I’m considering it right now?

 

[pinkmonkey]

What I find most confusing about it is that people don’t assume protesters are doing it out of a sense of justice, love for others, caring for the world. No, it is assumed their motive is selfish?!

I remember when folks were taking in refugees via the refugees at home charity (including a poster from here) and the rw trolls said stuff to them like, 'you'd never have a refugee in your home you're just virtue signalling.' They're so full of hate they can't comprehend it. They're the same ones who say, 'what about the homeless veterans?' When we all know they do jack shit to help anyone.

 

[ska invita]

Ive not seen or heard anything like this before - I was quite moved - and a good lesson as to what it is the key counterargument to unlocking the far-right brain prison <fundamentals of the material way the world works

if you're feeling hopeless about all this - and I am a bit - then give this a watch