Far right tropes: how to spot if your friend is going down the rabbit hole & how to respond

[Lotte]

I initially read this is a joke and thought I don’t get it.

I think it’s just a variation on arrested and jailed for hurty words. Whilst those who beat up female police officers are still free. The Manchester Airport thing. This is where I see that type of comment on social media

Are people really arrested that often for 'hurty words'? The police would never have any time to do anything else if that was the case.

 

[frogwoman]

Are people really arrested that often for 'hurty words'? The police would never have any time to do anything else if that was the case.

I really don't think so.

 

[frogwoman]

This was in the context of him thinking the UK under Labour is becoming a police state so I'm just wondering about it? Like what was the context?

 

[Silas Loom]

This was in the context of him thinking the UK under Labour is becoming a police state so I'm just wondering about it? Like what was the context?

It was under Labour tbf, 2006.

BBC NEWS | England | Oxfordshire | 'Gay' police horse case dropped

Apart from the nationally coordinated response to the post-Southport riots, I don’t see how anyone can blame Labour for anything police forces have done recently, though. That would be ridiculous.

 

[Lotte]

Starmer got blamed for the riots and he'd been in power for what, a month? It's amazing how much damage the Tories have done to this country and yet they're allowed to get away with it and everything is blamed on Labour.

 

[danny la rouge]

Are people really arrested that often for 'hurty words'?

That’s what xenon is saying. It’s an oft repeated trope. I guess people believe it. Coz the cops have gone woke.

 

[A380]

Are people really arrested that often for 'hurty words'? The police would never have any time to do anything else if that was the case.

Not only hurrty words but people get arrested just for flying the Union Jack and then the council give their house to immigrants just off the boat who also get given a giant telly. You couldn’t make it up…

 

[frogwoman]

It was under Labour tbf, 2006.

BBC NEWS | England | Oxfordshire | 'Gay' police horse case dropped

Apart from the nationally coordinated response to the post-Southport riots, I don’t see how anyone can blame Labour for anything police forces have done recently, though. That would be ridiculous.

He seemed to think this case had happened last week.

 

[Sasaferrato]

This was in the context of him thinking the UK under Labour is becoming a police state so I'm just wondering about it? Like what was the context?

Blair's government did introduce this horror.

https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/sentences-of-imprisonment-for-public-protection/

 

[PTK]

Back in the day the old bill could arrest people for telling the cop to fuck off or similar levels of abuse if that person had been warned not to do it immediately before (S5 public order act) Then an appeal court judge, probably quite rightly, said the bar for insulting the old bill was much much higher than for members of the public.

People were often done for "Obstruction", which is not obstruction of the highway, but obstruction of the police in the course of their duty. I don't know if this law has been revised, but certainly at one time it applied to almost anything you might do. There was a case in which the police were going to search a building, looking for a man, and someone who said words to the effect "you won't find him in there", was found guilty of obstruction.

 

[Rebecca Riot]

I've had a builder working for me recently who's a covid denier, doesn't believe climate change exists and thinks Bill Gates and Al Gore are trying to take over the world. He's also very religious (born again Christian, I think) won't watch TV and isn't on any kind of social media so I don't know where he gets his ideas from.

Trouble is, he's also a bloody good builder who does a good job for a fair price so I just have to put up with this shit as builders like him are like gold dust round here.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I've had a builder working for me recently who's a covid denier, doesn't believe climate change exists and thinks Bill Gates and Al Gore are trying to take over the world. He's also very religious (born again Christian, I think) won't watch TV and isn't on any kind of social media so I don't know where he gets his ideas from.

DIRECT FROM GOD

 

[neonwilderness]

Not only hurrty words but people get arrested just for flying the Union Jack and then the council give their house to immigrants just off the boat who also get given a giant telly. You couldn’t make it up…

These days...

 

[PTK]

I've had a builder working for me recently who's a covid denier, doesn't believe climate change exists and thinks Bill Gates and Al Gore are trying to take over the world. He's also very religious (born again Christian, I think) won't watch TV and isn't on any kind of social media so I don't know where he gets his ideas from.

Trouble is, he's also a bloody good builder who does a good job for a fair price so I just have to put up with this shit as builders like him are like gold dust round here.

From where does he get his ideas about God?
I suspect that he gets his ideas about the other things from the same source.

 

[PTK]

By the way, the lovely George Galloway talks of men of fighting age. And he advocated the British navy being deployed to stop people crossing the Channel in small boats.

 

[The39thStep]

The deep state and the elites.

 

[danny la rouge]

Not only hurrty words but people get arrested just for flying the Union Jack and then the council give their house to immigrants just off the boat who also get given a giant telly. You couldn’t make it up…

Just randomly saw this on social media.

 

[A380]

By the way, the lovely George Galloway talks of men of fighting age. And he advocated the British navy being deployed to stop people crossing the Channel in small boats.

Cunt’s got to cunt…

 

[isvicthere?]

It's a handy win-every-argument claim (in the mind of the person making it), because whoever plays the card can bend its meaning into whatever they want it to be, often in contradictory ways simultaneously

Indeed. It´s the same as the usefulness of the "woke" epithet as an insult. It has become so meaningless as a trope, that its meaninglessness has become an advantage to the bigot tendency. Because it means nothing, they can twist it to mean anything they (don´t) like.

 

[DotCommunist]

I've had a builder working for me recently who's a covid denier, doesn't believe climate change exists and thinks Bill Gates and Al Gore are trying to take over the world. He's also very religious (born again Christian, I think) won't watch TV and isn't on any kind of social media so I don't know where he gets his ideas from.

Trouble is, he's also a bloody good builder who does a good job for a fair price so I just have to put up with this shit as builders like him are like gold dust round here.

This horrible paper had some circulation before (i think) stopping.

The Light (newspaper) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The print publication regularly makes conspiratorial claims surrounding Bill Gates and world leaders, promotes climate change denial and claims vaccines are weaponized mind control devices.[1][22]

It has called for modern-day Nuremberg trials for journalists, politicians and doctors and repeatedly referenced conspiracy theories concerning Agenda 21 and the Great Reset. It regularly criticised the COVID-19 restrictions in the United Kingdom by comparing vaccination efforts to Nazi extermination camps.[1][11][23] The paper was also found to have spread false claims concerning vaccines, COVID-19 and COVID-19 death figures.[24][25][26][27]

 

[isvicthere?]

This is a really good idea for a thread. I've heard "men of fighting age" from people who wouldn't even know who the far right are.

They´re "men of fighting age" when they are too "cowardly" to fight in their own countries; they become "men of working age" when they start to "steal our jobs".

 

[Knotted]

They´re "men of fighting age" when they are too "cowardly" to fight in their own countries; they become "men of working age" when they start to "steal our jobs".

Yes on reflection that trope began during the Syrian civil war if I'm not mistaken. Not genuine refugees, not deserving of sympathy etc. and everything else everyone has said on this thread.

 

[Lotte]

The deep state and the elites.

I can practically hear the parentheses.

 

[BigMoaner]

Not only hurrty words but people get arrested just for flying the Union Jack and then the council give their house to immigrants just off the boat who also get given a giant telly. You couldn’t make it up…

Bloody cancelling Christmas this year too, aren’t they

 

[BigMoaner]

Can’t say anything these days