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Sasaferrato
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<Cough > Max 2021, Max 2022<Cough>.Apart from Lewis Hamilton, of course
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
lol nopeThe best F1 driver in the world. That's who Max is.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
a_chap
When the world came apart, where were you?
<Cough > Max 2021, Max 2022<Cough>.
If I coughed as many times as Hamilton had won World Championships I'd lose my voice.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Time will tell. I suspect that Hamilton will go the way of Schumacher who won year after year, because he had the best car... then he didn't.
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
hmm and max might go the way of Vettel
without Newey pretty useless
could say max only won this years championship because he had the best car
give him a williams see how he gets on
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Schumacher won because he was the greatest driver of his generation, which is why he ended up in the best car, not the other way around. Lewis is the same. That’s how F1 works and always has.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Genuine question: why does that apply to Hamilton and Schumacher, but not Verstappen?
Particularly seeing as Verstappen's dominance this season has come after significant regulation changes?
Not trying to take anything away from Verstappen, just trying to understand the difference.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Ohhhhhh, now it all makes sense, that's the real ploy!
Just like sprint races are designed to get people to watch earlier in the race weekend, this is to make sure people keep watching after the race!
"Think you know what the race results mean? Are you suuuuure?"
1%er
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'Makes me so angry' - Sergio Perez outraged by F1 tractor incident as Pierre Gasly hit with penalties
Red Bull’s Sergio Perez described the incident that saw Pierre Gasly almost collide with a tractor as "the lowest point we’ve seen in the sport for years". The Japanese Grand Prix had barely got started before Ferrari driver Carlos Sainz spun out in extremely wet conditions, leading to an advertising hoarding hitting Gasly’s vehicle. That prompted him to return to the pits for repairs, and after he exited the paddock he then drove at high speed to rejoin the pack, which the FIA later confirmed he would face censure for.At that point there were yellow flags, and then red, with the rain still intense and a tractor on the track to recover Sainz’s stricken vehicle. That almost led to a disastrous accident as Gasly saw the tractor late on due to dreadful visibility, fortunately managing to avoid it. With the red flag issued, the cars were then taken into the pits for around two hours before the race was declared safe for a restart, which Max Verstappen won to become world champion for the second successive season.
The incident recalled the collision at Suzuka in 2014 that led to the death of Jules Bianchi the following year, and which prompted a safety overhaul. Bianchi hit a tractor in 2014 at Suzuka when it was attempting to clear an immobile Sauber car from the track. A furious Gasly complained that he could have "killed himself" due to the vehicle being in the way. Lando Norris, Alex Albon, Bianchi’s father and others criticised the fact that a recovery vehicle was on the track, putting Gasly in danger, and after the race Perez added to the opprobrium. He told Sky Sports: “That’s the lowest point we’ve seen in the sport for years. What happened today just makes me so angry. I just hope ever in the sport we never get to see this situation ever again.” He continued: “We saw what happened here a few years ago with our friend Jules and absolutely I don’t care about what was the reason for that. It should never happen again, ever in any category.” The FIA have confirmed that Gasly was punished for speeding at 250km/h with a 20-second penalty, as well as a two-point deduction.
1%er
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Ferrari launch stinging tirade against FIA
Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto has launched into a stinging tirade against the FIA after Charles Leclerc was demoted to third by a last-lap penalty at the Japanese Grand Prix. Leclerc had been hunting Max Verstappen early in the restarted Suzuka race in wet conditions but as the abrasive surface wore down his intermediate tyres, the Monégasque was left defending from Sergio Perez for the final 10 minutes. By the last lap, the Red Bull driver was all over the back of the F1-75 but after attempting a move at the hairpin, Leclerc looked safe in second.A mistake at the final chicane, however, saw Leclerc cut the corner before squeezing Perez on the run down to the line. With the drivers in parc fermé, the race stewards handed Leclerc a five-second penalty and in doing so confirmed Verstappen as a double world champion. But the speed of the decision-making paled in comparison to the long delay in Singapore a week earlier when Perez was under investigation for safety car protocol breaches. With the penalty not given instantly, Ferrari's race management was affected and the lack of consistency has left Binotto furious.
"Very surprised, very disappointed," said Binotto. "The reason why, I think that seven days after Singapore, while there it took so many laps to decide and then even after the race, we had to hear from the drivers to take a simple decision which was straightforward. Today, they took it in a few seconds. Surprised by such a difference between Singapore and here after only a few days."
On whether the penalty was correct, Binotto insisted: "In our view, he didn't gain any advantage. He was ahead, he stayed ahead and kept the same gap. It is still arguable but that is the way they decided which we will accept. Certainly very frustrating to see such different timing in decisions and at least in such a situation, why are we not listening to the drivers like in Singapore or vice versa? If you go straight for a decision, as obvious as it should be, the five seconds in Singapore should have been given immediately which would have given us the opportunity to manage the situation differently and it could have been a potential victory."
Sasaferrato
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It does.
Firstly Schumacher, then Hamilton and now Verstappen have had the best performing car.
Not denigrating the driving skills of any of them, but the car is a major factor.
Next year? Who knows?
Sasaferrato
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155 mph in that murk? Either has balls like coconuts or completely mad.
1%er
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Red Bull call decision to award full points for Japanese GP a “mistake”
Red Bull team principal Christian Horner believes it was a “mistake” to award full points for the Japanese Grand Prix, despite the decision securing the championship for his driver Max Verstappen. The FIA’s decision to give full points for a race which ran to little more than half its scheduled distance caught many teams by surprise. Heavy rain caused a two-hour interruption to proceedings and led to the race concluding after 28 laps out of a scheduled 53. Red Bull and several of their rivals expected the FIA would award points in line with new rules which were introduced this year. These stipulate a race winner receives 19 points for a race which runs to less than 75% distance.However the FIA determined that full points should be awarded as the rules state the reduced points are only used “if a race is suspended in accordance with Article 57 and cannot be resumed.” Horner believes this is not how the FIA and teams intended the new rules to work when they were devised following last year’s farcical Belgian Grand Prix, in which half-points were awarded for a race which official consisted of a single lap behind the Safety Car. “When you read the regulations, what I think was supposed to be fixed following Spa, perhaps is unspecified in the regs,” he said. “So unexpectedly we won, which is a phenomenal achievement by Max and the team.”
Verstappen had not mathematically clinched the championship after the race until Charles Leclerc lost second place to Sergio Perez after being handed a five-second time penalty for leaving the track and gaining a lasting advantage. Horner feels it is logical that reduced points should be awarded in any race that fails to meet the maximum 75% distance threshold. “I think it’s a mistake that wasn’t included after the issues in Spa last year,” he said. “The regulations obviously haven’t been mopped up because we were under the strong impression that only 75% points would be scored. So we felt we were going to be one point short. But in the end, Checo’s move on Charles nailed Max the championship. So you could see his surprise, the team’s surprise. But what a wonderful surprise.”
Verstappen won the title after a penalty demoted Charles Leclerc to third place behind Sergio Perez. Before that happened, Red Bull were so convinced the lower points total would be given that they were considering whether they should pit Verstappen in a bid to score the bonus point for fastest lap and increase his chance of taking the title. “We thought we were going to be one point short,” said Horner. “So we were playing with the idea of pitting, but it was unsure whether Checo would pass Charles or not.” Horner added he is “certain” the rule will be changed. Red Bull’s championship rivals Ferrari also did not expect to get full points for the race. “We were confused ourselves,” its team principal Mattia Binotto admitted. “We thought it would not have been the full awards. So initially our calculation was such that [Verstappen] was not world champion. But at the end a clarification has been given, which is an okay clarification. So I think it’s simply accepted and that’s the way it is, he’s world champion. I think that it’s clear enough.”
1%er
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Or didn't think there would be a truck on track
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
That too.
beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Has anyone found this season truly exciting? I don’t think it exactly going to be remembered as a classic for the history books.
It looked as though it could have been earlier on in the season, but then Ferrari repeatedly out Ferrari'd themselves strategically.
Another issue with making these seasions longer and longer is that we've now got four more races left & there's not a huge deal to play for. Again, there's that push to build up the global audience, but with little at stake - what is of interest to new viewers?
Another issue with making these seasions longer and longer is that we've now got four more races left & there's not a huge deal to play for. Again, there's that push to build up the global audience, but with little at stake - what is of interest to new viewers?
Ax^
Silly Rabbit
would not say it will be viewed as a classic it had its moments at the start but red bull with Max after a few wobbly DNF ran away with the championship
and Ferrari being to Italian in their team structure to be a clear treat to the bulls
they let their own driver work pit strategy went their not drilled enough to preform team called race strategy
also they Nerfed the Merc runners as expected in the new rules not sure what that was suppose to achieve aside from showing Norris would be better suited
as Max team mate
artifactually created drama that will work on Netflix
and more shite street circuits it appears
after todays race is the track in the same situation as spa
and Ferrari being to Italian in their team structure to be a clear treat to the bulls
they let their own driver work pit strategy went their not drilled enough to preform team called race strategy
also they Nerfed the Merc runners as expected in the new rules not sure what that was suppose to achieve aside from showing Norris would be better suited
as Max team mate
artifactually created drama that will work on Netflix
and more shite street circuits it appears
after todays race is the track in the same situation as spa
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beesonthewhatnow
going deaf for a living
Buddy Bradley
Pantheistic solipsist
Qualifying for the next race in a couple of weeks is at 11pm. 
At least the race isn't on stupidly late.
At least the race isn't on stupidly late.When I think of Star Wars I immediately think of the 'Force'.
When I think of Formula 1 I immediately think of the farce.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Red Bull found to have committed minor breach of 2021 F1 budget cap
FIA investigation concludes Red Bull did exceed budget cap during Max Verstappen’s 2021 championship season but by less than 5%
