F1 2021

[Lord Camomile]

No, no, no, you've got it all wrong, folks; what matters is letting racers race, and not letting anything get in the way of that.

It's all for the love of the sport.

 

[weltweit]

Who won the constructors?

 

[Lord Camomile]

R5LIve are saying it is a bad end for the sport.

Tbf, kinda feels like there wasn't a good end as soon as Masi made that call.

I mean, not keen on jumping on the bandwagon and throwing one scapegoat under the bus, but it's not a great look...

 

[Ax^]

Merc won the constructors

that was not in question and did not bring the sport as a whole into disrupt

being season that brought in new fans and old fans alike and you turn it into a fucking farce

*claps liberty media

 

[Ax^]

 

[MrCurry]

I've read page after page of comment and discussion about the race.

Yet no-one has yet asked the most important question...

Spoiler

Will Lewis Hamilton be sending Nicholas Latifi a Christmas card this year?

The interesting question is if it had been Lewis who pitting during VSC and was behind Max who stayed out, how much conspiraloonery would there be about it being a Merc-engined driver who caused the safety car which would have (maybe) allowed Lewis to take the lead on the last lap?

 

[Lord Camomile]

 

[spitfire]

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It was the right decision. As much as it pains me. As I said earlier, it wasn't RB's fault and they made the best of it, exactly like Merc would have.

But fucking hell the FIA have got some hard thinking to do.

 

[Indeliblelink]

 

[Limejuice]

In effect the stewards have said: it doesn't matter if Masi made a dog's breakfast of the safety car episode, he can do what he wants. That means what he did was fine. Protest refused.

That sounds a bit arrogant of the stewards, but that was wholly to be expected. The sound of ranks closing echoes around the Gulf.

In some ways, I hope Toto does appeal the decision tonight, because the FIA supervision of races needs a complete overhaul after this fiasco (and the whole season, really). And Masi needs to go. Sometimes the only way to force people to do the right thing is to make it too painful for them not to.

 

[Lord Camomile]

"Any" does not mean "all"

I'll genuinely have to ponder that one

Article 15.2 allows the Race Director to control the use of the safety car, which in our determination includes its deployment and withdrawal

 

[Lord Camomile]

In some ways, I hope Toto does appeal the decision tonight, because the FIA supervision of races needs a complete overhaul after this fiasco (and the whole season, really). And Masi needs to go. Sometimes the only way to force people to do the right thing is to make it too painful for them not to.

Yup:

Mercedes have lodged their intention to appeal the decision of the stewards to dismiss the team's protest.

 

[Ax^]

something needs to change with the FIA


more or less admitting that their official did not follow the sporting regulations

but the saying he has the right to overule the regulations based on his interpretation


is not a good look for any sport

 

[1927]

In all that excitement I missed that Kimi got driver of the day.

Load of sentimental bollocks.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Rules are rules, except when they aren’t. Glad that’s clear.

 

[Badgers]

Managed to dodge any updates all day and now seen the race.

Wow

Gotta hand it to Verstappen and Red Bull. Deserved the win.

Gutted for Hamilton. Mercedes may have won the constructors title but their strategy mistakes cost Hamilton the title.

Verstappen is a great driver. He is not the best sportsman but is young.

 

[a_chap]

The cynic in me wonders...

Had Bottas been retained by Mercedes for next season, would dear Valtteri have found a way to bin it during the safety car laps?

 

[Ax^]

for all their protests and they kinda have a point the merc that is

why would you not of pitted lewis to cover off any redbull / FIA bullshit

losing track position they had more than one chance to catch max in a quicker car


just weird

 

[Lord Camomile]

Load of sentimental bollocks.

Tbf, I imagine that's exactly what the good man would say himself.

Probably in fewer words, though.

 

[Limejuice]

for all their protests and they kinda have a point the merc that is

why would you not of pitted lewis to cover off any redbull / FIA bullshit

losing track position they had more than one chance to catch max in a quicker car


just weird

The Magic 8-ball says: "Keep track position."

 

[Lord Camomile]

for all their protests and they kinda have a point the merc that is

why would you not of pitted lewis to cover off any redbull / FIA bullshit

losing track position they had more than one chance to catch max in a quicker car


just weird

For the last one, if they honestly thought the race would end under SC, then from their POV there would be no opportunity to regain track position after pitting.

RB could pit because if it finishes under SC then they haven't lost anything, but if they do get to race... well, we all saw what happened.

 

[Buddy Bradley]

I'll genuinely have to ponder that one

You're allowed to drink any of the beers in my fridge.

 

[Ax^]

ok they have won 7 WCs and 8 DWC


but free pits stop


free pit stop around the first VSC

 

[Epico]

FWIW I actually voted for Perez as driver of the day. Backing up Hamilton and that battle allowing Verstappen to catch up was the best part of the race & has been somewhat overshadowed for some reason...

 

[Lord Camomile]

You're allowed to drink any of the beers in my fridge.

That's a different use of the word.

If our parents said "clear up any mess after the party", I'm not sure they'd accept "oh, I didn't know you meant all the mess" as a reasonable justification for why there's cake smeared on the walls and the TV is in the oven.

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

FWIW I actually voted for Perez as driver of the day. Backing up Hamilton and that battle allowing Verstappen to catch up was the best part of the race & has been somewhat overshadowed for some reason...

Right up until the bullshit it was a great race.

 

[spitfire]

This is nice.

I used to hate sports - but Formula One changed that and now I'm obsessed

I'm hooked on F1: it's a hobby and a passion for life.

metro.co.uk

 

[1927]

This is nice.

I used to hate sports - but Formula One changed that and now I'm obsessed

I'm hooked on F1: it's a hobby and a passion for life.

metro.co.uk

I like the idea of setting fire to footballers mid game, she may be on to something !

 

[Ax^]

how have i posted over 1000 post in this thread this year


it may of been a good season regardless of the end result


but i've been around 10 years and barely posted 35 thousand posts

 

[sleaterkinney]

R5LIve are saying it is a bad end for the sport.

It’s the most exciting thing to happen in f1 in years, the rest of the race was a good example of how boring f1 is.