Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
It’s never going to happen, though. There just isn’t a revenue model. If there was, Time Out would still exist in a viable form.
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It’s never going to happen, though. There just isn’t a revenue model. If there was, Time Out would still exist in a viable form.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
City Limits was better.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I do miss that - didn't mind paying for it - bought it on a Tuesday , could plan out stuff to do for the week , now you just have to hear about stuff somehow . And the TimeOut website is shite.
ska invita
back on the other side
yeah...I dont hear about anything ever tbh... My own social media is a non-posting twitter account full of palestine atrocities....Songkick is effective but I go to about 1 live gig a year.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Yeah listing magazines were great. In Manchester there was City Life. One place where you could find out about the vast majority of what was going on, from music to art to politics. Somehow the internet has completely failed to replace this in a useful way, when it feels like something that should be dead straightforward.
skyscraper101
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Having a copy of Time Out back in the mid-90s pre-internet was essential when in London. Every gig, and the cinema, theatre, listings in your hand. I almost wish we could go back to that time sometimes. It felt easier than traversing several sites, and using apps etc.
twistedAM
Left Of The Dial
There is this listings site for London - All London's Live Music | Halibuts - but layout is poor.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I want a listings site which does all that TimeOut used to do - so Cinema listings, gigs, museums, galleries, restaurants,bars, clubs, other stuff I can't remember - I may not use all of those things a lot or at all, but I liked the way TimeOut used to do it.
The problem is that it is too easy to do listings on the internet, so lots of people do and then it becomes fragmented and split off into niches which goes against the whole benefit of a central listing like Time Out.
Separately, it also feels like there is just less culture going on in London full stop compared to a earlier in the millennium and what there is costs a fortune, so you kind of need to know you'll like it already. The idea of giving something a go on a whim just doesn't work when you've spent £30 on a ticket and £7 a pint.
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
I don't quite get this. It's easy to do all sorts of things on the internet, but that hasn't stopped big platforms emerging that specialise in particular functions (often becoming pretty much total monopolies).
Even if you want to look at one particular type of event, it's not easy. I had a hankering to try some theatre again, but attempting to find out what was on at the theatres in my various local towns and cities was such a ballache I basically gave up.
ska invita
back on the other side
Off you trot.....
Gromit
International Man of Misery
It was always ironic that a rag distributed via the tube… was always slagging off the tube and its workers. Constant negativity.
Unsurprising to me that its final gasp was final dig at the tube.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Last ever print issue and thats how you decide to sign off? Good riddance!
(Even though it seems amazing that London can't sustain a daily, and I do think we increasingly miss something from the decline of print journalism. MyLondon is just click-baity like a lot of the identikit 'regional' news sites. Yorkshire Post and Manchester Evening News are hanging in there).
ska invita
back on the other side
It's a propaganda sheet and readers know it. Correction, Knew it haha
Local London press can be done, see Camden New Journal and Islington Tribune, left leaning campaigning papers genuinely loved by the communities they serve, full of good content.
The Hampstead rich probably love Ham and High, seems to survive anyway
I haven't seen a South London Press in a while but I'm not looking tbf, plus its pretty shit
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
Manchester Mill (brilliant online newsletter) is about to launch its London version I think. There are some hopeful signs of life in journalism amongst the dross.
ska invita
back on the other side
Looks like there'll be a Glasgow one too
Mill Media set to double staff total to 22 as it reveals London expansion
Substack-based Mill Media publisher behind the Manchester Mill, Liverpool Post, Birmingham Dispatch and Sheffield Tribune, has announced a major hiring round, looking to add 11 roles in the next six months.
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stethoscope
Well-Known Member
I think I give it less than a year...
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And thats not all that is 'artificially generated'... just... why?!!
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Weekly London Standard launches with AI Keir Starmer front page
The first edition of the weekly London Standard features an AI-generated picture of Prime Minister Keir Starmer on its front page.
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And thats not all that is 'artificially generated'... just... why?!!
Brian Sewell's estate 'delighted' with one-off AI resurrection of Standard column
The Standard says its first weekly edition will have an AI-written review in the style of its old art critic Brian Sewell, who died in 2015.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
You're very generousI think I give it less than a year...
Weekly London Standard launches with AI Keir Starmer front page
The first edition of the weekly London Standard features an AI-generated picture of Prime Minister Keir Starmer on its front page.
And thats not all that is 'artificially generated'... just... why?!!
Brian Sewell's estate 'delighted' with one-off AI resurrection of Standard column
The Standard says its first weekly edition will have an AI-written review in the style of its old art critic Brian Sewell, who died in 2015.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
I was referring to why you'd resurrect Sewell in an artificial form... it hasnt 'worked on me' because I won't be picking up a copy!
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