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Eurovision 2023 - Liverpool

they should fuck off the judges panel - made worse by we have no idea what criteria they are voting on. Finland and croatias panel votes were massively out of step with the public vote in particular.
Cant quite work out why uk did so poorly - the song wasnt terrible (and the gammons hated her cos she slagged off boris johnson - so she derversed better) - but I think it came bottom in the popular vote. UK beat germany - but seeing as they were actively going for nul points while the uk were trying to actually win, that is pretty embarassing.
 
Kaka Tim said:
they should fuck off the judges panel - made worse by we have no idea what criteria they are voting on. Finland and croatias panel votes were massively out of step with the public vote in particular.
Cant quite work out why uk did so poorly - the song wasnt terrible (and the gammons hated her cos she slagged off boris johnson - so she derversed better) - but I think it came bottom in the popular vote. UK beat germany - but seeing as they were actively going for nul points while the uk were trying to actually win, that is pretty embarassing.
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The performance wasn't good and the song, although decent catchy pop, seemed lazy.
 
Although I think there were better songs (no I don't include Finland in that) I'm glad Sweden won, she was on my list of favourites (Finland wasn't).
 
Kaka Tim said:
they should fuck off the judges panel - made worse by we have no idea what criteria they are voting on. Finland and croatias panel votes were massively out of step with the public vote in particular.
Cant quite work out why uk did so poorly - the song wasnt terrible (and the gammons hated her cos she slagged off boris johnson - so she derversed better) - but I think it came bottom in the popular vote. UK beat germany - but seeing as they were actively going for nul points while the uk were trying to actually win, that is pretty embarassing.
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its a fix
www.thepinknews.com

How Eurovision vote fixing scandal shaped the 2023 finals

Eurovision was rocked by a vote fixing scandal at the semi-final stage in 2022 when it emerged six juries had "irregular voting patterns".
www.thepinknews.com www.thepinknews.com
those arent the only cases
 
I never thought I'd say it but I think they should do away with the jury votes now. It just seems totally irrelevant and unnecessary. You know now that it means absolutely nothing and the contest is not won until the public vote comes in.

I think it would lose something to not have the representative of each country announcing the vote but they could just give the telephone votes.

It needs to change.
 
Mrs Miggins said:
I never thought I'd say it but I think they should do away with the jury votes now. It just seems totally irrelevant and unnecessary. You know now that it means absolutely nothing and the contest is not won until the public vote comes in.

I think it would lose something to not have the representative of each country announcing the vote but they could just give the telephone votes.

It needs to change.
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Eh, I don't know. I can certainly remember when it was all public vote and it was an absolute shitstorm of people voting for their neighbours.
 
Chz said:
Eh, I don't know. I can certainly remember when it was all public vote and it was an absolute shitstorm of people voting for their neighbours.
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Hmmm....you have a point I guess.

Was it all public voting ever? I can't remember that. I should as I've watched it all my life :D
 
Ukraine having a black student front their act has created a lot of Yeah Right responses from people still hurting from seeing the treatment black people/students received since the war started

i really liked the track - good production (love the synth washes) and the singer had a great voice, and the message was solid too. Easily one of the best tunes of the night. Good luck to them both
 
Mrs Miggins said:
To be absolutely honest, I don't care as long as it keeps going. I don't really care who wins. I just bloody love it.
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yeah its a farce anyway, so whatever. im just a bit sad its not as funny anymore and pop music has become so much like eurovison/britains got talent etc mulch
best bit of eurovision is the point announcement bits from different cities - if they ever get rid of that its end times
 
Lord Camomile said:
Yeah, if they did away with the jury vote, I guarantee it would be back within a decade after people complain that the fan vote is "too political", "just countries voting for their mates" and "bots, bad faith actors, VPNs", etc, etc.
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The jury votes are just as political. They vote for their friends and neighbours. And for whoever’s just been invaded by Russia.
 
Kaka Tim said:
they should fuck off the judges panel - made worse by we have no idea what criteria they are voting on. Finland and croatias panel votes were massively out of step with the public vote in particular.
Cant quite work out why uk did so poorly - the song wasnt terrible (and the gammons hated her cos she slagged off boris johnson - so she derversed better) - but I think it came bottom in the popular vote. UK beat germany - but seeing as they were actively going for nul points while the uk were trying to actually win, that is pretty embarassing.
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What would the criteria be? The only honest one would be ‘what is the best song?’
 
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