That was definitely my favourite performance of the night, even if it was a pretty bad song. I’m a sucker for 1970s comedies that involve the strategic placement of plant pots, umbrellas and trumpets.Are we still talking about Finland's entry?
Eurovision 2024 - Malmö
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I’m disappointed that nobody has objected to Apple’s supermarket policy yet on the grounds that it discriminates against women. I was all ready to leap back in with the punchline that Apple have run the sums and found that on average, all humans have one bollock.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Twitter is free though
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I have absolutely no idea what you’re on about
Well, I guess that means you’re just locked out of this bit of the discussion
Nothing is free
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Is it? You pay in data, just a bit less honest than charging a cash fee.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
I would have appreciated the Twitter unroll being posted here so that I know what it says without engaging with Twitter and increasing their views.
Same way some people ask for someone to c&p Daily Mail stuff so they're not adding to their hit count.
It's a bit odd to go off at someone for asking for an alternative way of viewing content when we do it all the time on Urban.
Anyway... I really was not sure about whether to watch Eurovision this year. I did, because I have done for so long, and why should Israel take it away from me and everyone else? My GF was OK with it (she is Muslim), with concerns, but if she'd said no I'd have said no.
It also has the plus that I can say for certain that Israel's song was meh, their performance was extremely boring, and in a normal year they'd have been low down on the scoring board. If you focus on separating the art from the artist, then they were shit.
So the massive "public votes" were definitely political - probably mostly people who weren't even watching Eurovision but wanted to stick it to the Wokes, or hate Muslims. It was horrible to acknowledge that the UK public vote gave Israel 12 points.
FWIW - a couple of people talked about 30p per vote or something. It's 5p via the app.
I was very disappointed that so few people snuck in pro-Palestine hints. The policing and bag-checks must have been really fucking strict.
Same way some people ask for someone to c&p Daily Mail stuff so they're not adding to their hit count.
It's a bit odd to go off at someone for asking for an alternative way of viewing content when we do it all the time on Urban.
Anyway... I really was not sure about whether to watch Eurovision this year. I did, because I have done for so long, and why should Israel take it away from me and everyone else? My GF was OK with it (she is Muslim), with concerns, but if she'd said no I'd have said no.
It also has the plus that I can say for certain that Israel's song was meh, their performance was extremely boring, and in a normal year they'd have been low down on the scoring board. If you focus on separating the art from the artist, then they were shit.
So the massive "public votes" were definitely political - probably mostly people who weren't even watching Eurovision but wanted to stick it to the Wokes, or hate Muslims. It was horrible to acknowledge that the UK public vote gave Israel 12 points.
FWIW - a couple of people talked about 30p per vote or something. It's 5p via the app.
I was very disappointed that so few people snuck in pro-Palestine hints. The policing and bag-checks must have been really fucking strict.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I’ve never understood why I should care what they do with my ‘data’. Cash, I understand. Data, I don’t.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
There's the more complex "use it to manipulate discourse and peoples' views' stuff, but on a more fundamental level it's how they make their money.
They sell the data to interested parties, and/or use the data to set advertising rates.
So those of us who use it are sustaining and, to at least some extent, validating the platform and everything else they do. And some folk would prefer not to be that complicit in it all.
Hell, I'd prefer not to be! I'm just weak
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I really don’t understand any of that, honest.There's the more complex "use it to manipulate discourse and peoples' views' stuff, but on a more fundamental level it's how they make their money.
They sell the data to interested parties, and/or use the data to set advertising rates.
So those of us who use it are sustaining and, to at least some extent, validating it. And some folk would prefer not to be that complicit in it all.
Hell, I'd prefer not to be! I'm just weak
Every time i try to read about it to get my head around it, my attention has drifted almost immediately cos it’s too boring for it to hold my attention. It’s like being forced to do GCSE Maths again or summat. Cash feels real, data doesn’t
Oh, well, if you don’t understand it then it must be fine.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I didn’t say that. But it is hard to worry about something that you cannot fathom.
Here's someone who's never encountered a Lovecraftian demon from the netherworld.
And yet you have been stridently assertive that the thing you cannot fathom is something that other people shouldn’t worry about.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
???
Forget about it.
Apologies to Zapp Brannigan
I wasn’t taking something as seriously as other people clearly do, and for that I’m sorry.
Let’s just burn the internet. I’ve got some books to read.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Yeah, that's fair enough. I still struggle with all but the most surface level aspects of it too.I really don’t understand any of that, honest.
Every time i try to read about it to get my head around it, my attention has drifted almost immediately cos it’s too boring for it to hold my attention. It’s like being forced to do GCSE Maths again or summat. Cash feels real, data doesn’t
Either way, though, in this context it was simply that most of us don't see a problem/contradiction with someone who doesn't want to use Twitter asking if someone who does can quickly do a Thread unroll thing, so they can read a specific series of posts.
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tommers
Busta Rhymes is an unstoppable movement
I mean "thread reader app" also collects your personal data and has the same ToS as Twitter for various bits of that.
threadreaderapp.com
Thread Reader App Privacy Policy
Thread Reader App lets you read and share X threads easily!
threadreaderapp.com
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Is there anything like that in print?
Oh, it’s a TED talk, I think they transcribe all their stuff. Cheers!
AverageJoe
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OK. So you think your data is worthless. Let's have a look at that.
When you sign up somewhere, I've automatically got your name, maybe address - definitely general location, sex. That's going on a database.
That database can then be added to when you sign up for something else. Renter/Owner, salary band, occupation.
So now I know six things about you. I can use that information to then sement you into a target group. I can then sell that information to people who are looking for mid 40's males, who rent and work in a library, and who's hobbies include x, y and z.
And then we can add other things to that. Sexuality, policital allegiance, websites you visit, online games you play, who your friends and peers are and what they do. The colour of your hair. What you like to eat and drink. How often you go out. Now we're really targettng you. I know 15-20 pieces of information about you. And that profile is gold. Why would a want to spend £x sending an advert to 2 million people when I can spend a hundredth of that targetting grumpy librarians who have red hair and who like loud shirts and have nephews and nieces and who live or work in the Leeds area? Here come the adverts for Gillette, Hawaiian shirts, Audible, etc.
The companies I sell that to can then bombard you with emails and social media with offers than might appeal to you. This is called Segmented Targeting.
And those Fun Apps that show what you would look like as a person of the opposite sex/animal /viking? They arent being produced for shits and giggles. Because they are being built as part of an AI development to see what you would look like with a disguise on, because they always keep the eyes, nose, ears and lips the same. That info is able to identify people who could do something bad before (or after) they've done it.
If you think data is free then you are very very wrong. And this isn't conspiracy theory mad shit. 19 years working in online marketing has shown me that. And it's evolved faster over the last five years. Faster than I'm comfortable with.
And what should annoy you more than anything is that any social profiling I've done on you right now, is only from the information off this site. And I've not even had to do a search. It's the data you voluntarily give up here. Hopefully, (and I'm sure is the case) Editor doesn't sell this info, so you're safe here, but surely you can see how easy it is to profile someone for whatever purposes they need because people think their data is worthless.
(this is 100000% not a dig at you mate, I'm just using you as a typical example because you offered up the info that you're not fussed about donating your personal information to business.)
Peace out, get a VPN, don't interact with social media.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I meant it was worthless to me, unless someone pays me for it.
But never mind, read on
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
(Btw two of those ‘facts’ are wrong 
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AverageJoe
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It's not the hair and shirts though is it(Btw two of those ‘facts’ are wrong
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
You know OU only wears Hawaiian shirts.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Not true
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
You flatter me with your age estimate.It's not the hair and shirts though is it
