Eurovision 2024 - Malmö

[Serge Forward]

Hmm... I'm the other way about it. I don't think urban should ordinarily be for posts from Musk media. But on the occasion when there is a xitter thread that might be of interest to urban folk, then it should be posted via a 3rd party link such as that thread reader.

 

[Orang Utan]

First time I've ever asked on Urban, and can't say I've noticed these hordes of people placing such demands on you. But hey ho the view must be magnificent up there on your high horse - you've made a big deal out of absolutely nothing, for no reason.

It’s no bother really, just delaying bedtime.
But I think it’s those who won’t log in to Twitter to satisfy their curiosity who are on their high horses. ‘You there, unfurl this thread for me, I can’t abide the admin involved and I don’t want to get my hands dirty!’

 

[krtek a houby]

This is why boycotts don't work. Israel manipulated the protest and took advantage, they even bought YouTube advertising to encourage countries to vote. I've just looked back at what I wrote last night and I stand by it: they did everything they could to nobble the votes and the EBU was too weak and timid to deal with them properly, and for that, I still have a shadow over my love of this year's Contest; but despite everything they did, from the lyrics to the harassment to attempted vote manipulation, they lost. We're going to Switzerland because the eventual winner, the real winner, defeated them.

There's much to be done to the Contest to repair all the damage: Israel is part of the fault line to fix. The voting may need to be altered, the structure of the EBU, the role Israeli companies play in sponsorship etc. Things need repairing to save the Contest from itself, much like it did when the novelty songs era almost killed it a few years ago.

Switzerland won. Nobody else. And soon enough, if the forum allows, I'll start the next thread for Zürich 2025, and the party carries on.

And this is why protests do work

Trinity College Dublin agrees to divest from Israeli firms after student protest

Five-day encampment in university grounds that caused the college major loss of income ended in victory for campaigners

www.theguardian.com

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

It’s no bother really, just delaying bedtime.
But I think it’s those who won’t log in to Twitter to satisfy their curiosity who are on their high horses. ‘You there, unfurl this thread for me, I can’t abide the admin involved and I don’t want to get my hands dirty!’

Genuine question - are you OK?

 

[Orang Utan]

Genuine question - are you OK?

I’m fine. Strange question. I’m just kvetching.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

I’m fine. Strange question. I’m just kvetching.

Just checking. When someone with 175k+ posts forgets the golden rule ("don't be a dick") it seems a little off, that's all.

 

[Orang Utan]

Just checking. When someone with 175k+ posts forgets the golden rule ("don't be a dick") it seems a little off, that's all.

I didn’t/don’t think I was being one. You’re making a big deal out of me shooting the shit and carping at minor irritations, that’s all.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

I didn’t/don’t think I was being one. You’re making a big deal out of me shooting the shit and carping at minor irritations, that’s all.

I'm off to bed anyway. I sincerely hope you wake up tomorrow in a better place.

 

[Humberto]

Fuck off Zapp

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm off to bed anyway. I sincerely hope you wake up tomorrow in a better place.

How condescending!

 

[Humberto]

How condescending!

How dare you. Go and think about what you done OU.

 

[wtfftw]

Could somebody who does twitter do the thread rolling up thingy please? That nice Mr Musk only lets us non-twitterers see the first one.

Thread by @inlauvperry on Thread Reader App

@inlauvperry: 🧵 Who is Joost Klein, what did EBU do to him and why was he disqualified from competing in Eurovision 2024 for The Netherlands? In this thread everything will be explained. #Eurovision2024 #Europapa #j...…

threadreaderapp.com

You can threadreaderapp without being signed in. Unless of course, that doesn't work. I'm not signed in and not had coffee yet.


ETA - I can't see videos but that might also be my browser settings

 

[two sheds]

Thread by @inlauvperry on Thread Reader App

@inlauvperry: 🧵 Who is Joost Klein, what did EBU do to him and why was he disqualified from competing in Eurovision 2024 for The Netherlands? In this thread everything will be explained. #Eurovision2024 #Europapa #j...…

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You can threadreaderapp without being signed in. Unless of course, that doesn't work. I'm not signed in and not had coffee yet.


ETA - I can't see videos but that might also be my browser settings

Thanks for that, worked fine and was really interesting

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Thread by @inlauvperry on Thread Reader App

@inlauvperry: 🧵 Who is Joost Klein, what did EBU do to him and why was he disqualified from competing in Eurovision 2024 for The Netherlands? In this thread everything will be explained. #Eurovision2024 #Europapa #j...…

threadreaderapp.com

You can threadreaderapp without being signed in. Unless of course, that doesn't work. I'm not signed in and not had coffee yet.


ETA - I can't see videos but that might also be my browser settings

Thank you, much obliged.

 

[Steel Icarus]

It’s no bother really, just delaying bedtime.
But I think it’s those who won’t log in to Twitter to satisfy their curiosity who are on their high horses. ‘You there, unfurl this thread for me, I can’t abide the admin involved and I don’t want to get my hands dirty!’

Love you though I do, orange one, I remember more than a couple of times where you've demanded someone explain an easily-Googleable thing to you because you cba to look yourself

 

[girasol]

There's a lot of anger and resentment between Bambie thug and Eurovision organisers, in more controversy. But the question that must be answered is: What the heck is this creature? Fucking hilarious! It appears in other bits of the video too.

https://archive.ph/fzK6N

I'm confused by the whole thing to be honest... It seems Bambie Thug wanted Israel to be disqualified because there's been "incitement to violence" through the comments made by Israeli broadcaster? From what I read I wasn't getting that at all, but I might be missing something?

Bambie Thug, 31, previously said “they cried with their team” when they found out Israel had got through to the grand final of the contest
Hours before the live final they called on organisers to address commentary made on the Israeli public service broadcaster Kan that aired before their performance in Tuesday’s semi-final.
The commentator on Kan warned TV viewers with children that Bambie Thug’s performance of their song, Doomsday Blue, would be “the most scary” of the night. They said: “There will be a lot of spells and black magic and dark clothing, Satanic symbols, and voodoo dolls, like we are at Cats Square in Jerusalem in the mid-90s.” [This was a fair warning, even Graham Norton said in UK TV something along the lines "if you have children watching the next song might scare them"]

It was a reference to a well-known public square in Jerusalem that was central to the city’s nightlife in the 1990s and synonymous with goth culture.

The commentator said there was “some controversy” in Ireland about the song and noted that Bambie Thug liked to “speak negatively about Israel”. He added: “But we can talk about that later. Prepare your curses.”

Bambie Thug claimed the commentary breached the rules of the Eurovision and Israel should not be allowed to continue in the competition.

 

[krtek a houby]

There's talk on social media from angry types that they threatened another contestant. Can't see anything about the allegation, so calling it bullshit.

 

[Orang Utan]

Love you though I do, orange one, I remember more than a couple of times where you've demanded someone explain an easily-Googleable thing to you because you cba to look yourself

Exactly, so I know how irksome it can be.

 

[two sheds]

is that why you do it?

 

[Sasaferrato]

It’s not just that. IMO get an account and feast your eyes or don’t and ignore it all. You can’t have your cake and eat it!
are people going to demand we give them passwords to our streaming services next?

Hang on until I get a pen and a bit of paper, the memory isn't as good as it used to be.

 

[Orang Utan]

is that why you do it?

I try not to do it anymore, unless it’s a natural conversational thing. I’m a reformed character!

 

[kabbes]

I’m more irked by the idea that if you don’t want to play along with all the rules set by the massive social media corporations, you should just accept your place in an uninformed underclass. No. Much better to collaborate in ways around those rules

 

[Orang Utan]

I’m more irked by the idea that if you don’t want to play along with all the rules set by the massive social media corporations, you should just accept your place in an uninformed underclass. No. Much better to collaborate in ways around those rules

Surely, if you don’t want to play along with the rules set by the massive social media corporations, you should boycott them altogether and entertain or inform yourself in other ways?

 

[kabbes]

Surely, if you don’t want to play along with the rules set by the massive social media corporations, you should boycott them altogether and entertain or inform yourself in other ways?

I am boycotting most of them by not giving them my data. Your perspective that I should also just accede to their global dominance and accept my position in the underclass is… bizarre. I can resist by collaborating with others who want to circumvent their rules. I’ll provide ways round for the things I’m on, and others can provide ways round for the things they’re on. You know, social cooperation.

 

[Orang Utan]

You’ve lost me with that tbh. I clearly don’t understand social media in the way you present it.

 

[Lord Camomile]

It feels like there's a difference between not wanting to participate with Twitter (or other service/company), for whatever reason, on a day to day basis, and wanting to know a specific thing that was referenced or said.

A similar comparison is politicians who set out their platform or announce something in the Telegraph or Mail, and asking someone to C+P it, or host thale article somewhere else (or lend you their copy ).

People want to know what the fuck is going on without having to support those who have managed to corner access to information.

 

[kabbes]

You’ve lost me with that tbh. I clearly don’t understand social media in the way you present it.

Let me put it this way. The likes of Meta aren’t like your local, where you can either choose to obey by that landlord’s weird desire for everyone to wear a tie or just go to a different pub. Meta own all the pubs, cafes, public squares and shopping malls and they all demand ties. Meanwhile, all the supermarkets are owned by Apple and they all insist you go there with one bollock hanging out. But hey, that’s okay — either get special pants or just don’t get food.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Meanwhile, all the supermarkets are owned by Apple and they all insist you go there with one bollock hanging out. But hey, that’s okay — either get special pants or just don’t get food.

It did not immediately occur to me that special pants would be needed for this.

Which is probably why I'm not invited to Apple supermarkets in the first place

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

Hands up who's never streamed or torrented something from Sky, Netflix, Disney+ etc without subscribing to that service?

 

[Epona]

and they all insist you go there with one bollock hanging out.

Are we still talking about Finland's entry?