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Eurovision 2021

Disturbing lack of handclaps this year. Thankfully youtube's evil algorithms made up for it by pushing something other than loons and 3rd rate rock at me for a change.

 
Perhaps we could enter Ozzy Osbourne for the next one. :)


What went wrong with Norway? 9th from bottom must be a step up for them. ;)
What went wrong with Norway seemed to be that the fact I liked it meant normal people hated it. I’m used to that with my dodgy musical tastes. I’m sure they will learn their lesson and send Keiino next year anyway.
 
I'm lobbying for Depeche Mode next year.
Eurovision wr
Very popular in Eastern Europe!! Martin L. Gore likes wearing outrageous winged outfits. Bare chest and tattoo action from Dave.

They've got Eurovision written all over them!!
Eurovision written all over them ? Thats some really crap tattoo action
 
Really enjoyed this year's show. Lot's of great stuff. Best for me were Switzerland, Ukraine and Lithuania but pleased that Italy won.

The voting was super tense and exciting!

Thought our entry was generally rubbish. I mean the song itself was not too bad but the staging was just so dull compared to everything else. Absolutely no surprise at the nil point there.

Amanda Holden was excruciating with her "ooh look I can say some words in funny foreign".
 
Initially my heart was with Iceland. Shame their song this year wasn't as good as last year's, they must have felt like everything was against them for their Eurovision journey!

Liked: Lithuania, Sweden, Malta, Russia. Italy were good. Didn't mind Germany that much! Or Netherlands.

Skipped through: France, Switzerland, Ukraine of the high scoring ones.

Ultimately happy with the result though I feel bad for Iceland.

UK was crap and deserved last place with no points.
 
Should we get rid of the 'experts' vote and just go with the popular vote?
They had that in the early 00s. You can imagine what happened with neighbouring countries and diaspora voting. Juries were reintroduced to balance the inherent problems with "full" democracy.
 
Its eurovision, Morzart need not apply.
Still, he may not of entirely lit up the room, but quite a good analogy for thems looking to do something with the embers of our relationship with the EU as to where the cold water is coming from.

it was still shit. apparently he wrote songs for some big artists and this is what he came up with. :facepalm: :confused:
 
At the peak, BBC One had 49% viewing share. For about £300,000, and nothing much else besides Graham Norton and a satellite link, that's good value for Saturday night primetime.
 
Its eurovision, Morzart need not apply.
Still, he may not of entirely lit up the room, but quite a good analogy for thems looking to do something with the embers of our relationship with the EU as to where the cold water is coming from.
How would you account for Germany’s recent scores using the EU analogy ?
 
Very annoyingly, the only song that I can even recall the melody of today is that awful Portuguese one (and that the Brit was shit).
 
How would you account for Germany’s recent scores using the EU analogy ?
I've had the sense for some time that Germany do not take Eurovision seriously and their results reflect that.

The UK, on the other hand, do still seem to be desperately trying to succeed. But in classic Principal Skinner "no, they are wrong, not me" fashion, we think we lose because of 'political' voting rather than the quality of our entry.

I do get the impression (based on very little, tbh) that European perceptions of the UK, both in terms of global politics and our attitude to Eurovision, mean that people are less inclined to vote for us with all other things being equal. But I also feel like we'd get more votes if we sent a song of better quality, stopped acting quite so entitled, and did less of the "oh, aren't us Brits so bad at foreign, lol" type stuff.

As I said last night, I feel like Holden was going for self-aware, self-deprecating and maybe even conciliatory, but wiiiiiiidely missed the mark due to not actually being genuinely self-aware (of why Eurovision viewers might have problems with the UK) or conciliatory.

<edit: I've just realised that I seem to think our problem is we take it too seriously but also not seriously enough. That's a thing though, right? >
 
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