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England vs Panama (Group G) - 13:00 - 24/06/2018

Bollocks. It ain’t about liking the queen or being a frothing gammon, it is being proud to play for England, for an English footballer there is no higher, so when they can’t raise the enthusiasm to sing the anthem it don’t bode well for their playing.
See the beginning of this thread. It doesn't inspire enthusiasm. It's not an anthem, it's a dreary, uninspiring slog.
 
Getting ahead of myself but am hoping England top the group, as if they get to the quarters having come 2nd I’ll be on a plane when the match is on :mad:
Belgium game was looking sketchy as we'd be down south for b-i-l's wedding so small hours hard to do but now it's a dead rubber. Think he'll be keen to watch too anyway.
 
It’s what we have, so play with it. I would prefer a specific English anthem, but until then I truly believe that if you are passionate then you’d sing. Beckham always sang...
Fair enough; for me, being passionate about the game and being passionate about the song are two different things. I'd love to have something like the French anthem, but I'm not going to sing GSTQ because "it's what we've got".

I already have to "play with what we've got" watching the team, most of the time.
 
It’s what we have, so play with it. I would prefer a specific English anthem, but until then I truly believe that if you are passionate then you’d sing. Beckham always sang...

I'd belt out Jerusalem with the best of them. I just can't get behind that anthem, it's a hymn to monarchy and a Brit nationalism I just can't do. I know lots of people don't agree. But it makes me sad every time. Living in Wales I'd love to sing the anthem with that kind of pride.
 
Panama were a disgrace. But what are they meant to do? Die quietly. The never ending mouthing off, the fake injuries, the attempts to put off england's finest. They can have all that.
 
I'd belt out Jerusalem with the best of them. I just can't get behind that anthem, it's a hymn to monarchy and a Brit nationalism I just can't do. I know lots of people don't agree. But it makes me sad every time.

Yeah it’s a dirge, but these lads have reached the pinnacle and seeing them singing with pride is refreshing after decades of watching people who seem like they’d rather not be there cos they ain’t trousering £150k a week like they do at Man U or wherever. Could be worse, imagine if you had to endure Liechtenstein’s anthem!?!
 
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Panama were a disgrace. But what are they meant to do? Die quietly. The never ending mouthing off, the fake injuries, the attempts to put off england's finest. They can have all that.

And they earned two penalties and three yellows. Tunisia should have had two penalties against them too, perhaps FIFA has had a word with the refs?
 
Yeah it’s a dirge, but these lads have reached the pinnacle and seeing them singing with pride is refreshing after decades of watching people who seem like they’d rather not be there cos they ain’t trousering £150k a week like they do at Man U or wherever. Could be worse, imagine if you had to endure Liechtenstein’s anthem!?!
There are other reasons to not sing...

<edit: by which I mean I wouldn't take not seeing the anthem as an indication that they're not interested in representing their country>
 
He set up Stones' second.

that is being very, very generous - he missed an absolute sitter and stones pounced on the rebound. Surely the "should stirling be dropped?" debate has been comprehensively settled. If cant produce anything against a team as dire as panama i seriously doubt he is suddenly turn it on against decent opposition.
 
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