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malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
ages ago when they started flying the star of david, we suggested it was more provocation than actual support. however, with the exposure of alan lake/ayling and mr tommys romance with pamela 'stella' geller the ZOG nuts started creating about it and it was widely suggested there was an ulterior motive behind EDL support of Israel: ayling/geller influence on any ideological future and meanwhile just tell the foot and mouth soldiers that Israel is the only country fighting against muslims etc to get em onside. that was the general rumour etc. which in part sounded feasible.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
There's definitely a lot of influence of Zionist 'counter-jihad' ideology on the EDL, you only need to spend five minutes looking through the FB timelines of EDL organisers to realise that because it's full of stuff from Robert Spencer, Douglas Murray and Pam Geller.
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
yeah, the only clear ideological stance is imported from outside of the EDL. tommy has been well played on this and it has caused a lot of dissatisfaction amongst the ranks, the north south split is partly over this - then not being racist enough, money, ego and being on the telly.
tony.c
Well-Known Member
I heard on Radio 4 news this morning that it's been found that the Boston Bomber who died had been reading Right Wing US stuff as well as Jihadist websites.
Tamelan Tsarnaev 'had right-wing extremist literature'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23541341
Tamelan Tsarnaev 'had right-wing extremist literature'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23541341
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That's what i expect Panorama to be arguing in their latest SHUT DOWN THE INTERNET!!!! program tonight (that's where this claim has come from btw).
bignose1
Searchlight Spoiler
How things have changed..seeing that happen in Manchester City Centre...yards away from where the NF were driven into a 30 year + hiatus isnt pleasant viewing. I doubt that what happened will be come a regular feature....all of them out of towners but itll be felt personal by some of the older lot ...I know I do.
The Palestinians are a small group of people living under oppression on their own territory which has strong historical resonances for Irish, Welsh and Scottish people.
Wales rugby union team are about to embark on their third full tour of the Pacific Islands in 25 years, although they expect to lose money on the tour, Wales feel a common bond with other small groups and nations and want to help such people and extend the hand of friendship [although there has been some brutal battles on the pitch in the past], NZ, SA, Aus, Eng and the like don't seem to careless about them, you won't find them doing a full tour out there.
In football Wales have even played an international against the Basques [Giggs scored the only goal], i think the Basques played a League of Ireland team at one time as well, you wont find colonialist powers like Spain or England doing that.
Some very senior Welsh politicians support the Palestinian cause not many senior English politicians would do that.
In the recent UNESCO Palestinian membership vote the only independent Celtic country Ireland voted for Palestinian inclusion [along with virtually the rest of the world], an English lead Britain didn't vote with the rest of the world.
The Republic of Ireland was neutral in WW11, a problem as some of them obviously seen it at the time was should they support one lot of imperialists they had been fighting for years across the Irish sea or another lot of imperialists from mainland Europe ?, so they stayed neutral, Ho Chi Minh had a similar problem during and after WW11, the French, the Japanese and then the Americans, he worked/fought to get rid of the lot of them.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
only stupid wankers hold up politicians as people to be emulated.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
why does the territory of the palestinians have such strong historical resonances for irish, welsh and scottish people?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh i would be surprised if many people posting on this thread didn't have some right-wing extremist literature somewhere at home
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
i got loads! i needed it to research the history of anti-fascism a lot of which is embedded in the history of fascism. a lot of it is very very dull. especially that ZOG cack.
Being forced to live as a second class citizen in your own homeland occupied by foreign invaders that force their own laws and rules on you, may be centuries ago for the Celtic peoples but there is still an empathy towards other small groups wanting freedom and self determination.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
What Celtic people? Claiming that Celts are subjugated is like saying Mesopatamians and Assyrians are.
The ones that identify themselves as such and are commonly referred to as such.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
but that's not what you said. you said "The Palestinians are a small group of people living under oppression on their own territory which has strong historical resonances for Irish, Welsh and Scottish people." - you said it is the territory which has strong assocations for the scots etc not the plight of the palestinians
No you have read it wrong
, i didn't mean a patch of land in the Middle East has historical resonances for Irish, Welsh and Scots, i mean't that the situation the Palestinians find themselves in at the hands of an occupying power is similar to what the Irish, Welsh and Scots have found themselves in in the past.Do try and keep up.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I think that's a rather offensive comparison
Why ?, do you know what the invaders did in the Celtic countries ?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Did you know what the Incas did to the people they conquered?
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
trampie is a dick but i don't see what's offensive about it. welsh people were being beaten in school for speaking welsh and their language was being suppressed as recently as 60 years ago. and given the history of Ireland i can well understand an irish person feeling sympathetic to what's happened to the palestinians
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The point doesn't have to be made in agreement with someone whose reason for posting the comparison is simple racist trolling though. Racist trolling is offensive.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yep you're right. as his is bollocks about english/jewish people which hes probably gonna start up again
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Fair point, I was just disputing his idea that the Celtic people still exist and I'm still unclear as to how far we can go back before it all becomes irrelevant
Unfounded hence the immediate return, bullies getting the wrong end of the stick and ganging up.
If urban wants a private club for narrow minded birds of a feather then fine, posters can then have the same conversations over and over and come to the same conclusions and have no understanding why there are opposing views to their own out there, i have no agenda and i think its good for message boards to be a broad church within a certain field, eg urban likes to think it has a left bent, i would dispute that, but that is how many of its posters seems to like to portray themselves, so fine urban attracting posters from that field, but if its to be narrowed down even further from that to people that support only the same narrow causes and ban or not make everyone else welcome then it will be a lesser place for it and nothing more than a clique for a group of friends.
I hope urban stays vibrant as it can be a good place to discuss ideas, i hope it stays like that and the cliques don't take over.
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