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[Delroy Booth]

As I remember someone saying at the time, if we were flying Oasis flags, Gods choosen people would stick up Blur ones.

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[butchersapron]

There were the painted kerbstones, as well as the flags. Which were first?

Only one way to find out...

 

[laptop]

Only one way to find out...

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[Kev Scott LTJ]

http://scriptonitedaily.wordpress.c...-for-disabled-the-racistvan-racial-profiling/

Also uses Umberto Eco's 14 points of Fascism, which i'm sure has been dealt with before on here, but is also a load of shit.

oh I dunno, point 14:
..."All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning."
I draw your attention to 99.9% of EDL facebook postings!

 

[DotCommunist]

to Umberto 'I've et a thesaurus' Eco most peoples vocab must appear limited. Example: Focaults Pendulum

 

[frogwoman]

to Umberto 'I've et a thesaurus' Eco most peoples vocab must appear limited. Example: Focaults Pendulum

not being funny but this "10 similarities of the UK to fascism" or whatever it is and anything similar like that really boils my piss. It also assumes that fascism is the only form of authoritarian or even racist/genocidal government and that if a country's not fascist then it's doing all right.

 

[Limerick Red]

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its nice to be nice.

 

[bamalama]

There were the painted kerbstones, as well as the flags. Which were first?

Doesn't matter.Getting/forcing the local youth to paint flag stones was about the level that loyalist community workers/enforcers were at on their release under the gfa though,see also nicking/acquiring pallets for their wickerman bonfires on the twelfth

 

[smokedout]

Also uses Umberto Eco's 14 points of Fascism, which i'm sure has been dealt with before on here, but is also a load of shit.

in the comments she writes

I agree that (and this is partly to do with the cult of tradition section above) most do not know what these words mean. That’s why I think it’s really useful to set out what we mean by those words before we use them.

in other words I don't know what fascism means, but I want to write a piece saying the UK is fascist because it will get lots of hits, so I'll just make up what fascism means based on a crude understanding of an excerpt of an essay by a novelist

 

[malatesta32]

to Umberto 'I've et a thesaurus' Eco most peoples vocab must appear limited. Example: Focaults Pendulum

dan brown for graduates.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

NF and that loser jock shearer from oldham.

I'm all for booting a fascist in the face now and again, but does anyone else find posh whiny students bleating "Nartsee scum off our street" over and over slightly cringeworthy, and possibly counter-productive?

 

[malatesta32]

i fucking hate that 'naartzi scum' chant. its stoopid! 'Nae Nazis' is well better!

 

[Corax]

Especially when the group in question isn't made up of Nazis...

If people do insist on chanting then I dunno why people don't just say it how it is and call them racist scum. Fuck all room for denial there, and likely to resonate much more with the man on the Clapham omnibus too I woulda thought.

All chanting sounds whiny and shit in the end though. Primaeval growling, guttural yells, and menacing silences are the way to go. With the odd show tune thrown in just to stir things up.

 

[Orang Utan]

Fascist scum better? I'm all for yelling at em.
Though when i went to that counterdemo in Whitehall, the posh masked black-clad anarkids who like bating the cops as well as the EDL were the first to run away and hide behind the cops when the bottles started flying.

 

[Corax]

Fascist scum better? I'm all for yelling at em

Depends if the particular group are actually fash rather than just racist wankers I would have thought.

 

[Orang Utan]

Are you saying the EDL aren't fascists?

 

[Corax]

I'm saying not all racists are fascists. Certain tories, for eg.

But re the EDL - I'm not sure the EDL themselves know what they are, or possess enough political coherence to deserve a label of that sort.

The racism's much clearer ground certainly. Little room for debate there. And like I said, I believe that racism resonates with the average passer-by much more strongly than fash/nazi. Exceptions exist of course, including people of a much older generation.

 

[Orang Utan]

A lot of them are clueless, but their leadership is fascist, their actions are fascist and they are in all respects a fascist organisation.

 

[bamalama]

Are you saying the EDL aren't fascists?

Some are,but as an organisation they're an incoherent bunch.Anyway the people in the video above are nf and the whole thing looks like a bit of a side show,entertainment for the general public going about their business,not effective anti-fascism.
The swp always look surprised/ineffective when these people turn up.So,no lessons learned there then...

 

[bamalama]

A lot of them are clueless, but their leadership is fascist, their actions are fascist and they are in all respects a fascist organisation.

A complete misunderstanding of what fascism is imo...your hearts in the right place though

 

[audiotech]

The British Far Right in Transition.

 

[malatesta32]

 

[Ranbay]

I'm out it's all shit..... but im still going

 

[malatesta32]

that pretty much sums up 2013 so far.

 

[freshnero]

Going to get shot down for this
I`m in no way rascist never spoken a anrgy racist word
Always felt closer to my black mates growing up as we were all outsiders.And growing up my house was full of hate for londoners being irish.Now days all friends are middle class
But sometimes the hate and the way the EDL are looked down
Its easy to forget that they are pretty much all racists
Because they remind me so much of the people i grew up with
And the laughing at them seems so smug
And i cant help but think the laughing at them was always there it just need an excuse

sorry for the writing my dyslexia is quite bad

 

[SpineyNorman]

That's a point that's already been made several times on this thread. Why are you 'going to be shot down' for making it?

 

[Corax]

Going to get shot down for this
I`m in no way rascist never spoken a anrgy racist word
Always felt closer to my black mates growing up as we were all outsiders.And growing up my house was full of hate for londoners being irish.Now days all friends are middle class
But sometimes the hate and the way the EDL are looked down
Its easy to forget that they are pretty much all racists
Because they remind me so much of the people i grew up with
And the laughing at them seems so smug
And i cant help but think the laughing at them was always there it just need an excuse

sorry for the writing my dyslexia is quite bad

That's a point that's already been made several times on this thread. Why are you 'going to be shot down' for making it?

Aye. Sounds a fair and honest reflection to me.

 

[J Ed]

I'm all for booting a fascist in the face now and again, but does anyone else find posh whiny students bleating "Nartsee scum off our street" over and over slightly cringeworthy, and possibly counter-productive?

Yes, it just feels awful. Like the behaviour you would expect in a playground or something.

 

[AKA pseudonym]

oops the main EDL FB page has gone...

 

[Ranbay]

oops the main EDL FB page has gone...

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