EDL watch

[emanymton]

Apparently there is call to get lots of people down to market Street today, beyond the SWP. Can't see them turning up again though.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Lorenzo 'Obi' Abadinas
This is only temporary, BUT ...
EDL Biggest like page - Down
EDL Biggest group(EDL Newcastle) Down
EDL Angels - down
EDL London Division - down
EDL North London - down
EDL Portsmouth - down
EDL muslim division - down

Credit to Z Company, Anonymous UK and The Zoltan Collective. Same again next week! MWHAHAHAHA

 

[butchersapron]

What about big jim? Did he buy it

 

[Ranbay]

EDL Support Group via (EDL) English Defence League
We were alerted, last night, to the fact that Anon were going to spam all our pages with porn. A message was sent out to all admins to close their pages and as far as we are aware only one page got caught out. They failed miserably this time but here is a list of all pages that they intended to spam with porn so if your on any of these pages help your admins out by keeping an eye on them as they can't be there 24/7 (2)


http://pastebin.com/jMJKWiPE

 

[Jeremy Vile]

Funny............. http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/i...filmed-at-an-edl-rally?utm_source=vicetwitter

 

[Jeff Robinson]

Don't really like the video as it seems to be in the line of anti-EDL material that attacks how they dress/look rather than their politics, but I gotta say that tune is huge. Funky as hell.

 

[Corax]

Don't really like the video as it seems to be in the line of anti-EDL material that attacks how they dress/look rather than their politics, but I gotta say that tune is huge. Funky as hell.

I can see what you mean. But at the same time, if you're going to have a storyline involving EDL members then the people playing them have to be identifiable as such, and that's going to require picking an stereotype. If they were dressed in dinner jackets, or as hipsters, or in leathers, then the narrative just wouldn't make sense and the video wouldn't work. They may have exaggerated the burberry etc though I grant you.

 

[butchersapron]

If we're going to have people making daft videos that push stereotypes i don't agree with that say more about the makers prejudice then they need to at least make daft videos that push stereotypes i don't agree with that say more about the makers prejudice in order to make daft videos that push stereotypes i don't agree with that say more about the makers prejudice then they need to at least make daft videos that push stereotypes i don't agree with that say more about the makers prejudice in order to blah blah

Why do you need to come up with a stereotype to portray authenticity? That's one thing guaranteed not to.

 

[Streathamite]

jesus wept, my head hurts just from reading this page alone!

 

[Jeff Robinson]

I can see what you mean. But at the same time, if you're going to have a storyline involving EDL members then the people playing them have to be identifiable as such, and that's going to require picking an stereotype. If they were dressed in dinner jackets, or as hipsters, or in leathers, then the narrative just wouldn't make sense and the video wouldn't work. They may have exaggerated the burberry etc though I grant you.

I don't disagree with that, but I think for those reasons the video is not politically helpful. Of course, it's not supposed to be, its been designed to go viral and help push the track. I don't think opponents of EDL would do well to promote the video though as it appeals to uphelpful prejudices. That said, I just shared the video on fb cos i really like the tune, but I wrote a disclaimer stating that I disaproved of the video.

 

[Mrak]

How should the EDL be portrayed in a music video?

 

[butchersapron]

Off you go.

 

[ddraig]

Funny............. http://noisey.vice.com/en_uk/blog/i...filmed-at-an-edl-rally?utm_source=vicetwitter

 

[cantsin]

I don't disagree with that, but I think for those reasons the video is not politically helpful. Of course, it's not supposed to be, its been designed to go viral and help push the track. I don't think opponents of EDL would do well to promote the video though as it appeals to uphelpful prejudices. That said, I just shared the video on fb cos i really like the tune, but I wrote a disclaimer stating that I disaproved of the video.

i cant imagine 'sharing a a video' that I 'disaproved' of politically just cos I liked the (generic/retro house banger) tune....but then i can't imagine 'dissaproving' of a video cos the EDL are portrayed drinking a few shandies and wearing Burberry

 

[Jeff Robinson]

i cant imagine 'sharing a a video' that I 'disaproved' of politically just cos I liked the (generic/retro house banger) tune....but then i can't imagine 'dissaproving' of a video cos the EDL are portrayed drinking a few shandies and wearing Burberry

good for you.

 

[J Ed]

This might be slightly off topic but I keep thinking about this brilliant piece aimed at black working-class Americans. I think that the tone of it works pretty well, and I can't help that feel that something similar would be really effective aimed at working-class Brits who are potentially sympathetic to the ideas of the EDL. A piece could address some of the myths that are put about by the EDL like Muslims being exempt from the bedroom tax for example, and linking those myths to a discussion of genuine and decent concerns that people have with capitalism that are exploited by groups like the EDL.

 

[Frances Lengel]

Nobody even wears burberry anymore.

 

[treelover]

This might be slightly off topic but I keep thinking about this brilliant piece aimed at black working-class Americans. I think that the tone of it works pretty well, and I can't help that feel that something similar would be really effective aimed at working-class Brits who are potentially sympathetic to the ideas of the EDL. A piece could address some of the myths that are put about by the EDL like Muslims being exempt from the bedroom tax for example, and linking those myths to a discussion of genuine and decent concerns that people have with capitalism that are exploited by groups like the EDL.

That's a great pamphlet/article, learnt quite a lot from it, (till the Marxist exegesis at the end) going to send it to some friends who accept C/Theories, etc.

one is that in many ways it is a complete world view, like Marxism or other isms with grand narratives on explaining the world.

 

[Citizen66]

How should the EDL be portrayed in a music video?

With bad teeth.

 

[Red Storm]

 

[Limerick Red]

This is the one prior to that gig, that pinkham and diddyman are up on now?

 

[butchersapron]

Where is this from?

 

[butchersapron]

Who id's who here and why?

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Have you got any vids of paint drying?

 

[cantsin]

Nobody even wears burberry anymore.

a quick search in google images for EDL Burberry suggests they still do, a lot

 

[disco_dave_2000]

This is the one prior to that gig, that pinkham and diddyman are up on now?

Yep ; Bold Street, Liverpool. And person highlighted is the Diddymon. I think it was sentencing day for him and others as a result of this assault on a musician, his girlfriend and father. No idea of what the sentences are, as away from the city at the minute.

 

[butchersapron]

Where is this cctv coming from? There is at least two lots of it. From where?

 

[butchersapron]

The defence?

 

[ddraig]

it says in the comments that they are entitled to it so presume so

e2a - the comments, almost at the bottom, if you watch it on youtube that is

 

[butchersapron]

Ta. Entitled to see and respond doesn't mean put on youtube (not suggesting that you are ddraig). Who is on trial here? Because someone could be in big trouble here.