Aye. I wasn't criticising or suggesting anything about the people there. I just wanted to know if treelover spotted it as it was going on, because I'm pretty sure they didn't post about it during the day yesterday (although I might have missed it) - and if they didn't see it at the time but have drawn this conclusion/accusation with the benefit of retrospect and piecing together information, it just seems a bit off to point the finger before asking what happened first. So I was just asking for some clarification, iyswim.
you did not know what it meant, you admitted that earlier, now you're trying to pretend otherwise. lying again.
There are two versions of events to this alleged "uncritical support" which have already been set out in the other thread.
if you could point me in the right direction
It's on the Woolwich to Lewisham thread - Thursday's postings
The big problem with that demo was the anti-semitism and people flying dodgy flags.
South London AF
what is?
Here's the uncritical support i was refering to.
@SouthLondonAF
SPREAD THE WORD - We are working with Lewisham Islamic Centre to stop the#BNP from getting to#Lewisham
https://twitter.com/SouthLondonAF/status/339756123001323521
which reinforced "We will be primarily supporting the Lewisham Islamic Centre rally".
It's clear on that thread that there's a difference of opinion on what was decided. It's also clear that the Islamic Centre is a community centre, not just a mosque. It's also clear that lots of different people went to that meeting, it wasn't just a case of some politicos/activists meeting with religionists. What's not clear, so you'll have to read between the lines, is that attention moved from the Islamic Centre to where the Met approved demo/march had been redirected. I'm not particularly bothered what conclusions you draw from it all, except you seem to be doing exactly what treelover did earlier, and I think it's a bit off.
You're ignoring the decision-making process that resulted in *publicly* declared support (and have provided no basis for your allegation that it was "uncritical"). You're also ignoring that there's been little coverage of note of fash/anti-fash actions in Woolwich or Lewisham on Sat.
What don't you understand? It's like a church hall community centre, only Muslim instead of CoE. What's the big deal?
Nice to know the SWP/UAF are learning from the mistakes of the Stop the War Coalition and Respect.The fash are using the flag as further evidence that the UAF don't want them to lay flowers 'cos they are pro-terrorist commies all over twitter too.
He's clearly very naive to think that he will come out of this unscathed (the only Lib Dem I know reckons he'll soon be an independent and I'm inclined to believe it) but the obvious squirming and changing of the story suggests to me that he's either sympathetic or is attempting to appeal to those who are. Given that he's a Lib Dem and they generally don't really believe in anything beyond advancing their own careers I'm inclined to think that he did this for political capital. Which means he's also really fucking stupid.
Go on Brett, sneer at the proles a bit more.
Well, that's fucking conclusive then. No one with a swastika tattooed on their forehead, so clearly no fash present?
Well before turning up to their event Brett, perhaps you really ought to be a bit more interested.
Dude...seriously? You're a fuckin idiot.
