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We would also like to break one of our own rules and respond to a videoed rant that included our organisation's name being mentioned. Among the insults was reference to EVF sounding like an electrical supplier.

LOL :D
 
Anyone know what Goodwin's politics are? Only some of the stuff I've seen him tweet makes me think he might be a Tory, which says a lot about liberal antifascism if I'm right.

I suspect Labour if anything but I also suspect that his politics are defined by who is listening/commissioning him.
 
Politics defined by who is listening or paying? Isn't that the definition of the modern Labour party anyway :D

Under the the previous govt he did quite a few seminars, sometime with Hope Not Hate, sometimes with Ted Cantles lot on the back of the Prevent and Connecting Communities monies. I saw him both at Manchester University and Manchester Town Hall .
 
just been through the New British Fascism or whatever its called. a BNP history without any good bits. dont expect him to be more radical than copsey or renton.
 
I'd never heard of him until about 3 years ago when someone accused me of being him (long and very odd story) so I had a quick google - he seems to have come out of nowhere over the last couple of years to rival Copsey for the role of go to fascism expert.
 
I'd never heard of him until about 3 years ago when someone accused me of being him (long and very odd story) so I had a quick google - he seems to have come out of nowhere over the last couple of years to rival Copsey for the role of go to fascism expert.

His early stuff was working with Ipsos Mori polling data,treating the BNP as they would any political party. Most other commentators on fascism were either trying to make the BNP fit a theory ie they are all Tories or petite bourgeoisie , still callingbthem nazis and promoting no platform or making jokes about ill fitting suits.

Essentially what Goodwin et al did was to give some insight into who voted and who would vote BNP and why.particularly useful for labour councils who were losing votes to them but also to anyone who wanted to understand where to invest political resources .to be fair his written stuff pretty much exposed the misinformation and myths that had been built up around BNP support, I found it very enlightening but bourgeois anti fascism
 
they have been around since about autumn last year. when tommy and kev went to USA, tony curtis wasnt allowed to go so went to off to join EVF but left the same say cos they 'were racist.' bugle! give em 6 months then call the vet in.


EVF? fuck me you ain't setting your sights very high if you're trying to emulate a loyalist paramilitary force that would have been useless without heavy state back up
 
Anyone know what Goodwin's politics are? Only some of the stuff I've seen him tweet makes me think he might be a Tory, which says a lot about liberal antifascism if I'm right.

I met someone who worked with him professionally, and I asked them this question, and the person replied "he's a racist." I didn't push it coz I don't know the person very well and it wasn't appropriate at the time, and this is one person's opinion it shouldn't be taken as gospel obviously, but thought I might put that out there.
 
Can't say that's something that comes across in any of his stuff that I've read. Your friend wasn't involved with UAF or SWP were they? Only I've heard them call searchlight/HNH racist too because they said that Muslim paedophile gangs were fueling the far right.
 
Can't say that's something that comes across in any of his stuff that I've read. Your friend wasn't involved with UAF or SWP were they? Only I've heard them call searchlight/HNH racist too because they said that Muslim paedophile gangs were fueling the far right.

Just someone who worked with him who was from manchester, and friend is the wrong word, one time aquaintence. And yeah I wouldn't think he's racist at all based on what he writes either.
 
In other news....

English Defence League Angels
The weekend is upon us, I wonder how many of you will be hitting the clubs and pubs getting rat arsed, then crawling into your local kebab house eating that shite And when you purchase these products you are indirectly killing a British Soldier, every takeaway (kebab house) must give 10% of their takings to the central mosque in that area. When every Central Mosque has received this 10% they then send these monies to the Pashtun region of Afghanistan where the Taliban get hold of it. the money is then used to buy components for IED's and bullets that are turned against OUR troops. ENJOY YOUR NEXT KEBAB!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I met someone who worked with him professionally, and I asked them this question, and the person replied "he's a racist." I didn't push it coz I don't know the person very well and it wasn't appropriate at the time, and this is one person's opinion it shouldn't be taken as gospel obviously, but thought I might put that out there.

Find this persons views hard to swallow tbh. Goodwin had a small army of people doing Phd's and masters in extremism around him at Manchester and he simply couldn't get the work that he does if that was the case from Icoco, Fabian Society ,EHRC, Hope Not hate etc. he has done some work for the Tories but as I said he tailors his political content to where the work comes from.

He isn't an open borders supporter though but does that make him racist?
 
If they are working with him professionally and think he's a racist this throws up very serious question about this person not Goodwin - and they may well say a lot about liberal antifascism, but not Goodwin's. Not the sort of thing that should just be "put out there" either.
 
10 months according to the Guardian ticker...


  • EDL leader Stephen Lennon jailed for 10 months after pleading guilty to using someone else's passport to get into US. More details soon
 
yeah he was remanded last week of october. he will have copped the guilty please to get out of the nonce wing asap! still got the fraud charges over him though.
 
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