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there was a show on bbc3 about luton and the edl where the young lass presenting it went to see SYL because she went to school with him and she said he was called stephen lennon when he was at school. so i reckon he is definitely called stephen lennon.

its very likely he has had several chats with the spooks/cops/whatever but all the rest is just speculation without any evidence at all. that ocham's(?) razor thing innit.
 
The39thStep said:
That is embarassing
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Just spotted another one:

Jewish mavericks might have thought it was useful idea to help promote a far right person with less candid anti-semitism, to take the heat off an intolerant world where more and more Jewish graves are vandalised by neo-nazis, but the EDL was established long before Golden Dawn or the financial crisis that predated it, which blows this particular conspiracy theory out the water.
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Wrong by two decades on the GD claim and wrong on the crisis claim by (depending on your view) 1-3 years.
 
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krink said:
there was a show on bbc3 about luton and the edl where the young lass presenting it went to see SYL because she went to school with him and she said he was called stephen lennon when he was at school. so i reckon he is definitely called stephen lennon.

its very likely he has had several chats with the spooks/cops/whatever but all the rest is just speculation without any evidence at all. that ocham's(?) razor thing innit.
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yeah forgot about that, that dooley girl. there is no way he hasnt been 'chatting with plod' - as did tyndall, griffin et al. in 2010 when the soccer world cup was on the EDL were on the rise . plod wd have been very interested in names etc of potential hooligans and neo-nazis who might want to ruin the game. which incidentally is a divisive, nationalistic, capitalism scum fest of foul celebrities who never say their prayers before bedtime, i'll wager sirrah!
 
butchersapron said:
Then compare the situation in post-war Europe and the balance of international forces and global motivations with the situation in this country today. What do you see?

The ploy of saying that something happened in the past so any claim you may like to throw around today is therefore true and not worthy of any critical scrutiny is not going to work here.
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The stay behinds were set up to initially defend a red war but when that didn't happen turned their attentions to dealing with the internal threat and certainly in Italy fought a war against its communists fifth column. They went to war using fascist groups since the communists were their natural enemy.

The far right in Italy attacked ordinary citizens in order that the public seek protection from the state. http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=GGHXjO8wHsA#t=3069s

I certainly believe it to be possible that the security agencies would once again use the far right to do its dirty work. The initial EDL Movement was very quickly taken over from Paul Ray's street led campaign against islamic extremists and turned into a more professional political force.

Certainly the job of the security services is to infiltrate subversive groups. While the balance of power was different, the state definitely saw an immense and immediate threat from the extremist muslims, so much so that we saw a massive rollback in freedoms far more so than we ever saw when the Irish republicans were attacking the UK mainland.

I suspect the state have been at the centre of the EDL for a long time, that's all.
 
keybored said:
Altering it to Tommy Robinson doesn't really seem strange for the leader of The EDL (it sounds a bit more "street" than Stephen Yaxley-Lennon) but I do wonder why S.Y.L. in the first place. Didn't he fancy himself as a property entrepreneur for a bit? Perhaps he thought a double barrelled surname might give him some credibility.

Either way he's got some identity issues in lots of senses.
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IIRC he chose 'Tommy Robinson' as he was the main face in Luton's M.I.G.s
and Lennon has run with Luton's firm. The real TR was not best pleased about it, I think.
Getting away from the 'Lennon' title has limited the anti Irish abuse he gets from some of his followers, but not totally and his Irish roots get brought up by the splitters.
 
miktheword said:
IIRC he chose 'Tommy Robinson' as he was the main face in Luton's M.I.G.s
and Lennon has run with Luton's firm. The real TR was not best pleased about it, I think.
Getting away from the 'Lennon' title has limited the anti Irish abuse he gets from some of his followers, but not totally and his Irish roots get brought up by the splitters.
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I wondered whether the original Tommy Robinson wasn't a bit miffed at someone appropriating his name.
 
miktheword said:
IIRC he chose 'Tommy Robinson' as he was the main face in Luton's M.I.G.s
and Lennon has run with Luton's firm. The real TR was not best pleased about it, I think.
Getting away from the 'Lennon' title has limited the anti Irish abuse he gets from some of his followers, but not totally and his Irish roots get brought up by the splitters.
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yeah yr right mate. he was done for hooly behaviour with them too. the 'real TR' wasn't best pleased. the 'taig' tag is used against our man tho with little to back it up from what i can tell.
 
Still Laughing At The English Defence League is attacking racism with sexism and misogyny today. Attacking a woman because of the appearance of her skin.

See their latest posting for what I mean, I don't know how you link to individual posts. Maybe RaverDrew can link to it, he's on the case too.

/derail.
 
To be fair, I think misogynist is a bit strong, they target far more blokes than women and the bloke get far worse said about them without anyone batting an eyelid.

Having come across the lovely Miss Gandy on an internet forum and being told that I would be the first to swing from a lamp post if ever she got into power, I really do not give a fuck if her feeling are hurt.

The thing is with SLATELD, they really don't give a fuck either, they are sort of the anti Expose who go way to far the other way.
 
firky said:
Still Laughing At The English Defence League is attacking racism with sexism and misogyny today. Attacking a woman because of the appearance of her skin.

See their latest posting for what I mean, I don't know how you link to individual posts. Maybe RaverDrew can link to it, he's on the case too.

/derail.
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I thought we all new SLATEDL were bollocks.
 
SLATEDL, EDL News etc are great sources for info as indeed are the individual/group facebook pages. people need to counter fascism in the way they see fit, as is appropriate to them personally, that is their choice. there isn't 1 way to deal with fascism as history shows us, its more of a concerted effort by many that does the trick.
 
stash, its for some facebook comments and altho he is total arse bugle, it looks like a pretty feeble case. cant plod find owt else to pin on 'chairman kev?'
 
firky said:
Still Laughing At The English Defence League is attacking racism with sexism and misogyny today. Attacking a woman because of the appearance of her skin.

See their latest posting for what I mean, I don't know how you link to individual posts. Maybe RaverDrew can link to it, he's on the case too.

/derail.
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yeah, someone I know was posting on that photo. :facepalm:

Although not being sexist themself tbf.
 
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