EDL watch

[Corax]

Gable has been pushing this lone-wolf line for the last few years - see his Lone Wolf Project and through various academics.

Am I being overly cynical, or is that an easy punt on being able to say "I warned you" in the event that it happens - and therefore securing status as a 'leading expert' - and no possibility of discredit if it doesn't because it might still yet?

 

[Fingers]

http://edlnews.co.uk/index.php/latest-news/latest-news/961-a-christmas-carroll

 

[love detective]

unfunny, embarassing and shit

and this bit explicitly reveals the normally thinly disguised bigotry inherent in this kind of 'anti extremism':-

and being English and at this point, Kevin had not got any time for kindness, compassion, charity or benevolence

tossers

 

[Corax]

Happy New Year!

 

[Fingers]

Lol NY resolution, don't post articles that take the piss out of fash. WE MUST BEAT THEM AROUND THE HEAD WITH BROOMS AND CHAIR LEGS

Happy New Year all

xx

 

[love detective]

first of all, if you're going to try and take the piss out of something (and see that as some kind of political objective), try and actually make it funny so that it might resonate, rather than the over laboured, unfunny and embarrassing pish like that article above

but more importantly, if you think that alienating loads of english working class people by coming out with bigoted to fuck stuff like this:-

and being English and at this point, Kevin had not got any time for kindness, compassion, charity or benevolence

..is in some way contributing towards turning people away from getting involved with groups like the EDL, then you're ten times as thick and blinkered as those you attempt to parody/take the piss out of. You seem to think that smearing/taking the piss out of the english in general is an effective way of attacking certain english people involved in the EDL - even the EDL aren't as racist as that

bemused by your reference to brooms & chair legs - the last thing I would champion would be an ongoing campaign of physical confrontation against an irrelevant as fuck group like the EDL, just as your crap above (and relentless screen shot activity) continues to afford them a relevance they don't actually deserve/have, so would physical confrontation

 

[Fingers]

The line you quoted appears to be lifted from A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens, much like quite a bit of the rest of it.

How was it attacking the English?

Cheer up fella and have a good new year.

 

[love detective]

what do you mean 'how was it attacking the english' - can you seriously not see how?

it explicitly states that as a result of 'being english' such a person has no 'time for kindness, compassion, charity or benevolence'

in the eyes of the 'author', his englishness is the cause of the subject not having any 'kindness, compassion, charity or benevolence'

'being a muslim' such a person has no 'time for kindness, compassion, charity or benevolence'

any easier to get now?

and it wasn't lifted from a christmas carol (lifted from a review of it perhaps?), in any case it wasn't as if for Dickens, Scrooge's lack of kindness, compassion, charity or benevolence was as a result of his englishness (it was a result of him being a businessman/capitalist), so not sure how you're trying to defend what was written by making out it was written by Dickens

 

[Fingers]

I have just been back to have another look at the article and you seem to have selectively cut half of the sentence.

 

[Fingers]

Full paragraph
It had been three months since Kevin's business partner Tiny Tommy had been jailed for fraud and being English and at this point, Kevin had not got any time for kindness, compassion, charity or benevolence.
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Locked up for being patriotic or English is the main edl whinge even when they have broken laws not related to being English or whatever. It helps if you put it in context

 

[Fingers]

Looking at it again I am assuming the author meant jailed for being English as they repeat further down but I see your issue now.

Happy new year anyway

 

[Frances Lengel]

first of all, if you're going to try and take the piss out of something (and see that as some kind of political objective), try and actually make it funny so that it might resonate, rather than the over laboured, unfunny and embarrassing pish like that article above

but more importantly, if you think that alienating loads of english working class people by coming out with bigoted to fuck stuff like this:-



..is in some way contributing towards turning people away from getting involved with groups like the EDL, then you're ten times as thick and blinkered as those you attempt to parody/take the piss out of. You seem to think that smearing/taking the piss out of the english in general is an effective way of attacking certain english people involved in the EDL - even the EDL aren't as racist as that

bemused by your reference to brooms & chair legs - the last thing I would champion would be an ongoing campaign of physical confrontation against an irrelevant as fuck group like the EDL, just as your crap above (and relentless screen shot activity) continues to afford them a relevance they don't actually deserve/have, so would physical confrontation

I think you might have a point there.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the EDL watch site's endless vilification of Karen Downes. Inarticulate racist she may be, but the woman's lost her daughter & no one's been brought to book for it - AFAIC, she's entitled to be as unhinged as she likes. A bit of compassion wouldn't go amiss.

 

[Fingers]

Hmmm I am not too sure on the Karen Downes stuff, the documents that have been released leaked suggest that she was in just as much danger at home as the kebab house. Think the poor lass was in danger all over the place.

EDL news showed me them, wrong all round. Will expand on this further tomorrow when I am more sober but if you look back two pages you can see them and whoever wants to get these docs a bit more publicity is good with me.

Would like to see this case closed. The docs revealed since was horrific stuff that should be looked into or declared as fake or followed up

Maybe edl news went about it the wrong way but who knows what is best to do if there is a cover going on.

Apologies to love detective again

 

[Ranbay]

Can we laugh at this or not?

http://casualsunited.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/morrisons-supermarket-go-halal-edl-casualsunited/

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Like the casuals give a fuck about the UK farming industry.

 

[Ranbay]

I like the part where she can't fucking read

 

[malatesta32]

Like the casuals give a fuck about the UK farming industry.

or womens rights, gay rights, halal or kosher production. its using an emotive issue to further a racist agenda.

 

[malatesta32]

I think you might have a point there.

Another thing that doesn't sit well with me is the EDL watch site's endless vilification of Karen Downes. Inarticulate racist she may be, but the woman's lost her daughter & no one's been brought to book for it - AFAIC, she's entitled to be as unhinged as she likes. A bit of compassion wouldn't go amiss.

the tragedy is appalling, that no one denies. but the documents fingers points out allege sexual, physical and mental abuse of the wee lass and her siblings by the dad and his mates - and also imply that the mam was either aware of it or, worse, colluding.

 

[DotCommunist]

I don't think they should be slagging her off or praising her. they should not be mentioning her at all except in the context of how the edl have used her daughters death. Its more OMG the fash posted something on facebook and are ugly shit

OMG the fash arent exactly fine specimens of the aryan race themselves !

 

[malatesta32]

fingers said:​

'Hmmm I am not too sure on the Karen Downes stuff, the documents that have been released leaked suggest that she was in just as much danger at home as the kebab house. Think the poor lass was in danger all over the place.'​

which the docs affirm. if the documents are proved to be right then the BNP, EDL, casuals will have been 'sporting peedos' - a major political error.​

​

and just out of interest: http://twitpic.com/brizim

 

[Frances Lengel]

Whatever happened to Charlene Downes, I just think it's in poor taste for anyone to make political mileage out of it. And lets not forget, regardless of Charlene's home situation, it's accepted fact that those kebab shop boys were using young girls for sex - A fucking horrible gig from which nobody comes out covered in glory.

 

[malatesta32]

there is much more on this story yet to come out. charlene wasnt the only girl at risk. the police ballsed it up. social services failed to act. the documents allege neglect by the family etc. it is not only about the poor lass.
http://twitpic.com/brizim
the liam bloke on here, despite being a bugle, seems more clued up than most. rather tactlessly and grossly he claims that someone 'was slipping charlene a length down paki alley at 25 quid a go.' [sic].

 

[malatesta32]

and of course you are right, 'A fucking horrible gig from which nobody comes out covered in glory.'

i started researching MSM on the background of the story and to be honest i was pretty horrified.

 

[malatesta32]

i got told off by butchers for going on about this - so apologies butchers!

 

[jakethesnake]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jan/02/edl-clint-bristow-custody-burglary

 

[malatesta32]

what a toilet.

 

[malatesta32]

http://thenorthernmonkeymedia.wordpress.com/2013/01/01/search-for-the-truth-charlene-downes/

 

[gawkrodger]

Anpther EDL splinter (may already have been talked about, can't be arsed to read through the thread), the imaginatively named English Volunteer Force

Our name...was chosen by the four man Inner Council that controls the E.V.F

and who

predominantly stands against Extreme Islam.
We will also stand robustly against Dissident Irish Republicans

are having a demo in Brum at the end of the month hoho

 

[malatesta32]

they have been around since about autumn last year. when tommy and kev went to USA, tony curtis wasnt allowed to go so went to off to join EVF but left the same say cos they 'were racist.' bugle! give em 6 months then call the vet in.

 

[malatesta32]

EVF. oh dear!
http://edlnews.co.uk/index.php/late...lunteer-force-court-nazis-for-birmingham-demo