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[butchersapron]

Yo

Your critique is vapid. That can't be changed by terse repetition.

There is no critique - it's just shit. It's shit.

 

[butchersapron]

Yo

Yo

Your critique is vapid. That can't be changed by terse repetition.

..and don't 'yo' me icebaby.

 

[sunnysidedown]

I am not justifying or denying. It is what it is - a pastiche in one sense. If the spelling was correct and erudite it would be less realistic to the target. It is not taking the piss out of illiteracy it is taking the piss out of illiterate bigots who have the raw fucking nerve to preach this and that about English while being utterly shit in their use of English.

Further, as I have said, the literacy levels of the stuff are probably higher if anything than those of the target. I am flattering them and arguably piss taking less than I could - though that would make it less readable and more over reliant on that aspect.

I may well tone down the mis spellings. It is certainly the most frequent criticism by far.

This is a problem with satire (though I am not at all comparing myself to great satirists but can only cite ones people have heard of): Did Spitting Image take the piss out of Kinnocks Welsh accent? Did that make it racist?

I dunno.

Speech impediments, physical tics, plenty of things are used in humour with and without liberal minded defences.

My natural liberal inclinations do tend to go out the window where stupid nasty fascists are concerned, but some liberals are more keen to critique their critics. I understand that.

Maybe next time you're feeling satirical and feel the need to compose a witty pastiche you instead put down your mug of tea, turn the computer off and take the dog out for a walk?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

This was on "Still Laughing" wall in the last hour:

your all a bunch of cunt son this page . edl till i die ur never gonna change that . your all probally fat geeks that got bullied bye muslims at school .​

Also today I have seen 2 separate claims that it is illegal to say "white"

How very awful and silly. But woe betide anyone who tries to say it's awful and silly in any other format. Let's hunt down people who take the piss out of hateful fuckwit twats. They are surely the enemy within.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Yo

..and don't 'yo' me icebaby.

That, ironically, was a typo. Where's the link to your stuff? I want to know how it's done properly.

 

[butchersapron]

This was on "Still Laughing" wall in the last hour:

your all a bunch of cunt son this page . edl till i die ur never gonna change that . your all probally fat geeks that got bullied bye muslims at school .​

Also today I have seen 2 separate claims that it is illegal to say "white"

How very awful and silly. But woe betide anyone who tries to say it's awful and silly in any other format. Let's hunt down people who take the piss out of hateful fuckwit twats. They are surely the enemy within.

You're quite self-obsessed. I thought everyone thought it was great last week? Why do you think those of us who think this is shit are saying that we think it's shit? No waffle, just tell us.

 

[butchersapron]

That, ironically, was a typo. Where's the link to your stuff? I want to know how it's done properly.

My biting Morriseque satire? Or something else?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Maybe next time you're feeling satirical and feel the need to compose a witty pastiche you instead put down you're mug of tea, turn the computer off and take the dog out for a walk?

You don't like it? Fine. Some people do.

You think it's shit? Fine. Some people don't.

What interests me more is what else you target. Do you have a link to you slagging off someone elses stuff?

Perhaps there are a lot.

Perhaps you are another of natures critics.

Again, perhaps you could show us some of your works in whatever capacity. I guarantee you I will probably me more receptive and respectful.

I don't have a dog.

 

[frogwoman]

It's really not on to have a go at the illiterate in the name of anti-fascism.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

My biting Morriseque satire? Or something else?

Preferably the former, the latter would be fine though.

 

[sunnysidedown]

I don't have a dog.

Use your imagination.

 

[butchersapron]

Preferably the former, the latter would be fine though.

The former? You mean my blog set up to ineptly take the piss out of people? Haven't got one. And if i did it would be - by definition - better than that crap you've come up with.

 

[butchersapron]

You don't like it? Fine. Some people do.

You think it's shit? Fine. Some people don't.

What interests me more is what else you target. Do you have a link to you slagging off someone elses stuff?

Perhaps there are a lot.

Perhaps you are another of natures critics.

Again, perhaps you could show us some of your works in whatever capacity. I guarantee you I will probably me more receptive and respectful.

I don't have a dog.

You're taking criticism of your shit satire blog very personally here taffboy.

 

[butchersapron]

Again, perhaps you could show us some of your works in whatever capacity. I guarantee you I will probably me more receptive and respectful.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

It's really not on to have a go at the illiterate in the name of anti-fascism.

The blog is more literate than most EDL bilge I read in terms of % spelling accuracy, vocab use and overall structure. How do you square that?

I am not having a go at "the illiterate". Without wanking off too much about my own stuff (I can see good and bad points to it) there are certainly many more gags in it beyond the literacy stuff. Many more. I wouldn't be arsed in doing it otherwise. If it were entirely literate in every regard it just wouldn't be realistic or credible as a satire/pastiche.

I am having a go at hypocrisy and stupidity.

I doubt some of you can watch 20 minutes of stand up without having an apoplexy, but those standups don't show up on U75 so I don't suppose you bother writing to them to slag them off, not least because they would ignore you anyway.

 

[butchersapron]

Are you saying that you're a gifted comedian now as well?

 

[butchersapron]

If it were entirely literate in every regard it just wouldn't be realistic or credible as a satire/pastiche.

These require subtlety, understanding of the subject that you're taking the piss out of, native intelligence and wit and some grasp of how people use language. Guess how many you don't got?

 

[ViolentPanda]

Odd how stoaty just turns up again today.

Hmm. Right-wing; Catholic; does that middle-class thing of saying "ain't" to try and imply he's "one of us".
Yep. Spook.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Frogwoman - gtg in a second.

but to put it another way:

Is it fair to take the piss out of such warped logic and paranoia as:

1) The "white" race is under threat.

2) There is a muslim plot to take over the world.

3) The various nonsense associated with "I'm not racist but..."

4) The idea that the EDL are bastions and saviours of national heritage and culture.

5) Shallow defence of far right violence while complaining about the "2 tier system"

6) A genuine belief that mainstream politics and media are infected with socialism?

7) Using distorted facts and outright fiction to promote and propagate hate?

etc.

"yes" or "no" answer will do fine.

If so, do you think the whole thing should be done with entirely correct syntax, spelling, grammar and punctuation?

How realistic would that be?

There are other issues I might have with it, but will leave it there for now.

I might actually give it a whirl though, as an experiment.

 

[butchersapron]

Frogwoman - gtg in a second.

but to put it another way:

Is it fair to take the piss out of such warped logic and paranoia as:

1) The "white" race is under threat.

2) There is a muslim plot to take over the world.

3) The various nonsense associated with "I'm not racist but..."

4) The idea that the EDL are bastions and saviours of national heritage and culture.

5) Shallow defence of far right violence while complaining about the "2 tier system"

6) A genuine belief that mainstream politics and media are infected with socialism?

7) Using distorted facts and outright fiction to promote and propagate hate?

etc.

"yes" or "no" answer will do fine.

If so, do you think the whole thing should be done with entirely correct syntax, spelling, grammar and punctuation?

How realistic would that be?

There are other issues I might have with it, but will leave it there for now.

I might actually give it a whirl though, as an experiment.

Of course it is. But your attempt attempt it is shit. Utter shit.

And secondarily, yes of course there are also other ways to do than with all spelling mistake rubbish. Or are you saying you were compelled to do this in this shit way?

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

These require subtlety, understanding of the subject that you're taking the piss out of, native intelligence and wit and some grasp of how people use language. Guess how many you don't got?

Some. Obviously I don't got less than you, as shown by the excellent work of yours that I asked for and you linked to without hesitation. For which many thanks.

Are you now at the point where you spend more time slagging off critics of the far right for doing it wrong than you do in anti far right activities?

Have you been there for some time in fact?

 

[butchersapron]

Some. Obviously I don't got less than you, as shown by the excellent work of yours that I asked for and you linked to without hesitation. For which many thanks.

Are you now at the point where you spend more time slagging off the far right for doing it wrong than you do in anti far right activities?

Have you been there for some time in fact?

Sorry, i haven't got anything as shit as yours to offer. Get over it.

Are you now at the point where you spend more time slagging off the far right for doing it wrong than you do in anti far right activities?

In english please.

 

[butchersapron]

Some. Obviously I don't got less than you, as shown by the excellent work of yours that I asked for and you linked to without hesitation. For which many thanks.

Are you now at the point where you spend more time slagging off critics of the far right for doing it wrong than you do in anti far right activities?

Have you been there for some time in fact?

Some? I like optimists but there are limits.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Of course it is. But your attempt attempt it is shit. Utter shit.

And secondarily, yes of course there are also other ways to do than with all spelling mistake rubbish. Or are you saying you were compelled to do this in this shit way?

I am as compelled to do it in whatever way as you are compelled to like it.

A lot of people like it and I respect their opinion every bit as much as I respect yours.

But you still aint shown me your own efforts to learn from and it maketh me sad, because I think you have a natural wit yourself which might even be turned to greater effect than snarling at other urbanites all day.

 

[butchersapron]

I am as compelled to do it in whatever way as you are compelled to like it. pis

A lot of people like it and I respect their opinion every bit as much as I respect yours.

But you still aint shown me your own efforts to learn from and it maketh me sad, because I think you have a natural wit yourself which might even be turned to greater effect than snarling at other urbanites all day.

Well, i don't respect their opinion because it's quite clearly shit. They either know that or don't want to upset you.

I have never made a shit blog attempting to do what this thing has. Yes, i agree, i am funnier than you.

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Trevor Phillips on R4 now talking about European far right. Will put up iplayer link later

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Well, i don't respect their opinion because it's quite clearly shit. They either know that or don't want to upset you.

With festival season upon us, Madame Butchers psychic act rolls into town once more.

All those people who thought to themselves "I will go to the effort of telling this bloke I like his stuff and pushing it around a bit without him asking, because I think it is shit"

That must be what they thought right Butchers?

Because you said so.

Humour is personal. I find you quite funny. I didn't say you were funnier than me. It's too subjective and I don't know.

But you didn't get round to linking to any of your stuff. I think it's almost cute that someone so ascorbic could actually be so shy.

 

[butchersapron]

I didn't call them liars, i said that if they think that shit is funny then i don't trust their opinion on what shit is. Once more, i haven't made up a crap blog lacking in insight humour or intelligence, so stop asking me to link you up with one.

I am funnier than you. Let's not fuck about.

 

[malatesta32]

can we get back to the edl now please? as bignose said earlier it is a bit of a coincidence to just be checking insurance and then 'discovering' guns and bombs on the backseat next to the thermos and travel blanket isnt it? hmmm ... cue pink panther music ...

 

[malatesta32]

I didn't call them liars, i said that if they think that shit is funny then i don't trust their opinion on what shit is. Once more, i haven't made up a crap blog lacking in insight humour or intelligence, so stop asking me to link you up with one.

I am funnier than you. Let's not fuck about.

strong statement butchers! lets have a best knock knock joke comp!!!