butchersapron
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cantsin
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you're seriously deluded mate, it's utter garbage, deeply unfunny, politically questionable, and now we actually have a Liv AF poster coming on here confusing comments made about your 'blog' with what they're doing . Waste of time / space, and as for your 'show us a link to your material' comment to BA, embarassing...
sunnysidedown
caput mortuum
Christ, it tells you something when I think I would rather have an admitedly lively, and no doubt angry, pint with your average EDL sympathiser, than a beer with the knacker who wrote that.
disco_dave_2000
la la lapland
come on, it's only 292 pages long ;-)
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
liverAF! thanks for the clarity, mucho obligado!
1/ liverAF blog. well i check it everyday for a start!
2/ just concerned over threats to PD flying about. nothing unusual in that from those semi-tards.
3/ re: republicans. the same people attacking AFs are attacking republican 'ira terrierists' so some solidarity is very much required and joint stewarding.
4/ there is no number 4.
5/ usual fash tactics. easy pickings to and from gigs. re: the wigan lot, i assume it is the 'RVF' or BFF or whatever they are calling themselves now. is 'wigan mike' heaton back then? there was also the pinkham relationship with kim from BFF as well. see malatesta blog etc.
6/ dunno about 200. there are a lot of splits between EDL/casuals/Infidels/NF factions.
7/ hello! and welcome to urban
1/ liverAF blog. well i check it everyday for a start!
2/ just concerned over threats to PD flying about. nothing unusual in that from those semi-tards.
3/ re: republicans. the same people attacking AFs are attacking republican 'ira terrierists' so some solidarity is very much required and joint stewarding.
4/ there is no number 4.
5/ usual fash tactics. easy pickings to and from gigs. re: the wigan lot, i assume it is the 'RVF' or BFF or whatever they are calling themselves now. is 'wigan mike' heaton back then? there was also the pinkham relationship with kim from BFF as well. see malatesta blog etc.
6/ dunno about 200. there are a lot of splits between EDL/casuals/Infidels/NF factions.
7/ hello! and welcome to urban
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
should be given a fucking community award.
butchersapron
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For giving the edl and the fundies both exactly what they want?
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
hmmm ... not sure about this. what were they gonna do - a wild bunch re-enactment on the streets of dewsbury. sounds very unlikely. they may have had equipment and some anti-EDL lit but its a bit sensationalist. have they admitted it or just been accused?
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
Stephen and his edl lot will be over the moon with this - just what they needed as their numbers are flagging.
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
it's all 'alleged' at the moment.
malatesta32
Not Serb. No, Really!
hmm... how many antifascists here have been 'accused' of stuff at demos? wee bit sensationalist for plod to release such info so quickly. is it a case of 'look how well we're doing really' after the M6 fiasco last week? or not.
LiverAF
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1, good stuff!
2, Yeah, they really targeted him and his partner, and claim they wont stop just because he has dropped out.
3, yeah, there will be some joint stewarding
4, far too complex for me to comment on
5, there is someone I recognise as being RVF, but the the majority seem to be from a 'lively' NF branch. There are a few who look like extras from romper stomper, and I seem to recall that Wigan was a particular hot-spot for B&H members (when I saw the leaked membership list last year / earlier this year). I have not seen Wigan Mike though.
6, I wasn't suggesting that the 200 would be all fash as in (CXF, NWI, NF, BNP, EDL etc) but would be a similar make-up to the clowns we had in Feb, i.e,. former soldiers, and royal legion types with no fascist affiliation as such, orangemen (of which there is a big presence in Liverpool), many of which are not fascists, but will join in because its against the IRA, and many other assorted 'loyalist' types. In February, there must have been more people wearing Rangers T-shirts in Liverpool than in Glasgow. So, they will be a very mixed bunch, but with a common enemy (for the day)
7, Thanks
Well they have been charged with plotting to carry out an attack with the EDL being specifically mentioned and claims of weapons, including guns and a home made explosive device being found.
So it seems pretty serious.
bignose1
Searchlight Spoiler
Routine stop is another way of saying........theyve had a grass in the camp. So obviously the plod had it all btr.
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
no, though that is a sad side-effect.
please don't treat my flippant comments as serious, it makes me feel foolish.
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
Sorry, should have said it was the target that was 'alleged'.
Which makes them releasing it/leaking it even more puzzling. Not sure what there is to be gained from that sort of information at this stage unless its just media speculation but I cannot see that.
Me thinking out loud: If you charge somebody with conspiracy (which I assume has happened here) does the charge have to include who or what you were conspiring against ?
butchersapron
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Odd how stoaty just turns up again today.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
I am not justifying or denying. It is what it is - a pastiche in one sense. If the spelling was correct and erudite it would be less realistic to the target. It is not taking the piss out of illiteracy it is taking the piss out of illiterate bigots who have the raw fucking nerve to preach this and that about English while being utterly shit in their use of English.
Further, as I have said, the literacy levels of the stuff are probably higher if anything than those of the target. I am flattering them and arguably piss taking less than I could - though that would make it less readable and more over reliant on that aspect.
I may well tone down the mis spellings. It is certainly the most frequent criticism by far.
This is a problem with satire (though I am not at all comparing myself to great satirists but can only cite ones people have heard of): Did Spitting Image take the piss out of Kinnocks Welsh accent? Did that make it racist?
I dunno.
Speech impediments, physical tics, plenty of things are used in humour with and without liberal minded defences.
My natural liberal inclinations do tend to go out the window where stupid nasty fascists are concerned, but some liberals are more keen to critique their critics. I understand that.
butchersapron
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It's just shit. A total embarrassment.
krink
I'll do it this afternoon
The alleged target was already mentioned speculatively in the press at the weekend so maybe it's just the bbc following the previous reports.
As far as I know, conspiracy charges don't have to name the people you conspired with but they will have to say what you were going to do(or did)/law you were conspiring to break (source: bitter experience
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As far as I know, conspiracy charges don't have to name the people you conspired with but they will have to say what you were going to do(or did)/law you were conspiring to break (source: bitter experience
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frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
that's shit.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
I wonder if, in some cases, a critic continues with criticism because they are responded to and engaged with respectfully.
If they were to blurt "It's shit" with or without reason and get no response they probably would move onto something else, deserving or otherwise. I can't expect people to go to far right places and get constant flaming though. The idea of someone challenging them perhaps gets their backs up even more, or just pours oil on the fire or whatever.
It is not a professional work, it started as a laugh and I blogged it so it didn't completely go down a cyber black hole. I am interested by the level of some of the indignation, right and left. But the amount of people on the right who seem to think it genuine and like it for that amuses me greatly and counts as a success in it's own terms AFAIAC.
I can take criticism on the chin, perhaps more than my critics can. But any fool can be a critic, and some of mine (not necessarily here could easily be on the exhibit list). Some are happy to dish it out, but far less happy when their own criticism is criticised. This makes them little more than hollow bibblemeisters.
butchersapron
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It is just shit. You can't change that by waffle. It's not my failing. It's yours. It's shit.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
I asked before for some links to your own stuff Butchers, to show me a better way forward. But response came there none. 
I could not keep away. Saw the story and thought of you lot. Its a subject that interests me and to be fair I tend to get a different perspective on things from here than I can usually find anywhere else. Take it as a compliment. You might be a smug know it all twonk but you do seem to know your beans and always have an opinion, as do a lot of others on here. Its a quality I admire.
taffboy gwyrdd
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Yo
Your critique is vapid. That can't be changed by terse repetition.
Your critique is vapid. That can't be changed by terse repetition.
butchersapron
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