Driving Standards

[Winot]

bike must have been going at one hell of a pace to cause that amount of damage

“You should see the other guy”

 

[T & P]

I bet it was going well under the limit when a reckless deer ran straight into it at full speed

 

[T & P]

I'd never heard of Genesis before, but I wonder if they'll be reviewing lending their vehicles to celebrities as courtesy cars...

Here's what we know about Tiger Woods' car wreck and injuries

The world held its breath awaiting news of Tiger Woods' condition after the golf legend suffered serious injuries Tuesday in a rollover crash near Los Angeles.

edition.cnn.com

I've just checked the car maker's website. Appalling fuel consumption of course, and not particularly pretty to look at. At least it's half the price of a Range Rover though.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I'd never heard of Genesis before, but I wonder if they'll be reviewing lending their vehicles to celebrities as courtesy cars...

Here's what we know about Tiger Woods' car wreck and injuries

The world held its breath awaiting news of Tiger Woods' condition after the golf legend suffered serious injuries Tuesday in a rollover crash near Los Angeles.

edition.cnn.com

I've just checked the car maker's website. Appalling fuel consumption of course, and not particularly pretty to look at. At least it's half the price of a Range Rover though.

The world held its breath awaiting news of Tiger Woods' condition after the golf legend suffered serious injuries Tuesday in a rollover crash near Los Angeles.

Yeah, I almost passed out from lack of oxygen.
Oh look, a squirrel.

 

[Teaboy]

I'd never heard of Genesis before, but I wonder if they'll be reviewing lending their vehicles to celebrities as courtesy cars...

Here's what we know about Tiger Woods' car wreck and injuries

The world held its breath awaiting news of Tiger Woods' condition after the golf legend suffered serious injuries Tuesday in a rollover crash near Los Angeles.

edition.cnn.com

I've just checked the car maker's website. Appalling fuel consumption of course, and not particularly pretty to look at. At least it's half the price of a Range Rover though.

World famous sports star career ended in a single car accident is probably not the promotion Genesis were looking for when they lent him that car.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Follow you , follow me tiger with your invisible touch . To the land of confusion as suppers ready. You will be saying I can’t dance with those injuries. Shame the car is broken and you won’t be able to turn it in again. You twat

 

[not-bono-ever]

I hate genesis

 

[T & P]

I hate genesis

Had never heard of them until yesterday, and I was surprised today to learn from Wiki it’s the luxury arm of Hyundai. I’d have bet the house it was going to be an American brand.

Clearly targeted at the US market, I gather? I mean, if you compare it with Toyota’s own luxury offshoot, Lexus, it’s a completely different beast. Lexus produces far more European-stylised models, not to mention more fuel consumption-conscious, within the (semi) luxury car segment anyway.

This thing looks ugly and tacky as fuck imo regardless of its performance figures. Other than a cheaper price tag I can’t imagine many people in Europe outside of Premiership footballers or low level drug dealers choosing any of their wares over competing models.

 

[nick]

I hate genesis

you know a lot of their song titles in that case. Methinks the lady doth protest too much ;-)

 

[hash tag]

A classy piece of parking because if you have a really large ego that goes with the car, then one disabled bay cannot be enough. Full car park I notice.

Fury as 'd*******' driver of £155k McLaren supercar parks over two disabled bays

The 570GT model was snapped in an underground car park in Melbourne, Australia without a disability permit visible, it is alleged - angering people online

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[sleaterkinney]

More than half of drivers break the speed limit in a 30, almost half on the motorway.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Ok drivers back me up on this. When you're on a dual carriageway, you should not overtake anyone when passing a junction. This is to leave the outside lane clear for anyone who needs to move over to let someone in at the junction. If someone is coming past on the outside of you and someone else trying to join the lane you're in, the only option is to brake fairly hard which is never an ideal thing to do on a fast road.

This is not a rule I was taught, it's one I figured out for myself via basic thinking. But is it just me? The van drivers and drivers of overpriced German cars of this land do not seem to share my thinking on the subject

 

[Spymaster]

More than half of drivers break the speed limit in a 30, almost half on the motorway.

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That seems extraordinarily low for motorways. I'd have put it up in the 90s.

 

[Spymaster]

Ok drivers back me up on this. When you're on a dual carriageway, you should not overtake anyone when passing a junction. This is to leave the outside lane clear for anyone who needs to move over to let someone in at the junction. If someone is coming past on the outside of you and someone else trying to join the lane you're in, the only option is to brake fairly hard which is never an ideal thing to do on a fast road.

This is not a rule I was taught, it's one I figured out for myself via basic thinking. But is it just me? The van drivers and drivers of overpriced German cars of this land do not seem to share my thinking on the subject

I'd have moved to the middle lane well before the entry slip road. If everyone did that it wouldn't be an issue.

 

[mauvais]

Ok drivers back me up on this. When you're on a dual carriageway, you should not overtake anyone when passing a junction. This is to leave the outside lane clear for anyone who needs to move over to let someone in at the junction. If someone is coming past on the outside of you and someone else trying to join the lane you're in, the only option is to brake fairly hard which is never an ideal thing to do on a fast road.

This is not a rule I was taught, it's one I figured out for myself via basic thinking. But is it just me? The van drivers and drivers of overpriced German cars of this land do not seem to share my thinking on the subject

It's good planning and courtesy to do what you describe - or to clear the way by accelerating past sufficiently in advance. With well-sighted sliproads etc you should usually be able to tell if this will happen or not rather than moving over for it anyway out of habit.

Legally, obviously there is no requirement and if this situation develops the fault would be on the part of the joining driver for neither yielding or merging at sufficient speed to fit in with traffic.

 

[mauvais]

That seems extraordinarily low for motorways. I'd have put it up in the 90s.

Average speed for cars on free flowing motorways is 68mph, or it was in 2018. Skewed a bit by the fact that speedometers over-read so people think they're going quicker.

 

[not-bono-ever]

A classy piece of parking because if you have a really large ego that goes with the car, then one disabled bay cannot be enough. Full car park I notice.

Fury as 'd*******' driver of £155k McLaren supercar parks over two disabled bays

The 570GT model was snapped in an underground car park in Melbourne, Australia without a disability permit visible, it is alleged - angering people online

www.mirror.co.uk

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Key time

 

[SpookyFrank]

It's good planning and courtesy to do what you describe - or to clear the way by accelerating past sufficiently in advance. With well-sighted sliproads etc you should usually be able to tell if this will happen or not rather than moving over for it anyway out of habit.

Legally, obviously there is no requirement and if this situation develops the fault would be on the part of the joining driver for neither yielding or merging at sufficient speed to fit in with traffic.

Lots of sliproads with poor visibility on my commute. The one I have to use is basically a hairpin bend and you've got no chance of matching speed with the traffic before you join the dual carriageway. Luckily most people know that and leave room.

 

[mauvais]

There was one up near Lancaster that might as well have had a fiery pit at the end - sharp bend and then a scant few inches of slip road before being dumped on to the M6 at about ten miles an hour. I think they might have changed it now.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'd have moved to the middle lane well before the entry slip road. If everyone did that it wouldn't be an issue.

I might move over in advance, particularly if passing a known dodgy junction, but not if someone else was in the inside lane.

 

[T & P]

More than half of drivers break the speed limit in a 30, almost half on the motorway.

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That headline statistic is in itself is no indication that more than half of all drivers are reckless or unsafe though. Not anymore than stating that most people under 30 have committed criminal offences related to drugs or theft. Which is probably true and sounds concerning on the surface, but not so much when you realise most of those criminal offences related to carrying a couple of pills in your pocket in your clubbing days or nicking a pint glass from a pub at closing time, rather than dealing in meth or stealing mobile phones and purses from people‘s pockets.

If more than half of all drivers were clocked doing 48 mph on urban 30 mph streets then that would be a different story.

 

[mauvais]

Those stats show that compliance is pretty good, IMO.

We did this one a while back on this very thread FWIW.

 

[sleaterkinney]

That headline statistic is in itself is no indication that more than half of all drivers are reckless or unsafe though. Not anymore than stating that most people under 30 have committed criminal offences related to drugs or theft. Which is probably true and sounds concerning on the surface, but not so much when you realise most of those criminal offences related to carrying a couple of pills in your pocket in your clubbing days or nicking a pint glass from a pub at closing time, rather than dealing in meth or stealing mobile phones and purses from people‘s pockets.

If more than half of all drivers were clocked doing 48 mph on urban 30 mph streets then that would be a different story.

Exceeding the speed limit is dangerous to others though, that’s why the 20 mph limit was brought in. The stats are just useful in showing motorists attitude towards the law, aided by the cops letting them off.

 

[Spymaster]

Exceeding the speed limit is dangerous to others though ...

That's not always true though, and when you make clearly silly rules people will break them.

 

[Spymaster]

Average speed for cars on free flowing motorways is 68mph, or it was in 2018. Skewed a bit by the fact that speedometers over-read so people think they're going quicker.

That’s average speed though, not the number of people who exceed the speed limit. We’d need to know what question was asked in Sleater’s table but I don’t believe that pretty much everyone doesn’t regularly exceed 70 on motorways.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Ok drivers back me up on this. When you're on a dual carriageway, you should not overtake anyone when passing a junction. This is to leave the outside lane clear for anyone who needs to move over to let someone in at the junction. If someone is coming past on the outside of you and someone else trying to join the lane you're in, the only option is to brake fairly hard which is never an ideal thing to do on a fast road.

This is not a rule I was taught, it's one I figured out for myself via basic thinking. But is it just me? The van drivers and drivers of overpriced German cars of this land do not seem to share my thinking on the subject

A dual carriageway doesn’t necessarily have more than one lane. Whilst what you say is kind, it is up to the driver joining the road to do so when clear, so they should be prepared to stop and wait, they should not just barge on and expect others to get out of the way.

 

[Spymaster]

A dual carriageway doesn’t necessarily have more than one lane. Whilst what you say is kind, it is up to the driver joining the road to do so when clear, so they should be prepared to stop and wait, they should not just barge on and expect others to get out of the way.

Short slip roads is no excuse for not being able to join at motorway speeds anyway. People should just buy faster cars.

 

[hash tag]

There can't be many cars on the road, certainly not current production models that are not capable of motorway speeds. A faster car would not overcome this.

 

[Spymaster]

There can't be many cars on the road, certainly not current production models that are not capable of motorway speeds. A faster car would not overcome this.

Think about what you’ve posted here and realise why it’s silly.

Wakey wakey!

 

[hash tag]

If most cars are capable of motorway speeds, it means they are capable of the maximum national speed limit. It is illegal and mostly unnecessary to exceed those limits. A car being capable of more than this would not help.