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Plastic Paddy
It's real but don't rely on it. People DO get done for less. It's only English police forces too I think. In Scotland there's no leeway.
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Plastic Paddy
Most English police forces won't prosecute you for speeding if you are less than 10%+2mph over the limit. So 35 in a 30 limit, 57 in a 50, etc. It's supposed to mitigate potential errors of between 2% and 3% in the speed measuring equipment and they don't want to be nicking everyone for 2 or 3mph over that because pretty much everyone would be getting whacked. The leeway is at the discretion of the police though. They can do you for 1mph over if they want to. People might challenge that in court on the basis of camera accuracy and motoring forums are full of people who say they have, could or would.
sleaterkinney
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No, the CPS do, and they have to think about what will get a conviction. The defendant can choose a jury trial for death by careless driving.
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Plastic Paddy
Correct. The point is that both careless and dangerous driving are defined legally.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It’s what ACPO (now replaced with National Pig Chief’s Council) set as their standard. Frau Bahn and I both got done by the same camera at 36 in a 30, 30 + 3 + 2 is the tolerance that is applied. At my speed awareness course they stated that 30.1mph is illegal and could in theory see you nicked, but never is, even in death crashes. But perhaps 34 would see a death crash punished as a law breaking event rather than an accident.
I then got done for 80 in a 70 and felt hard done by as I did see the van and slowed down from 90 for it, unreasonable cunts didn’t appreciate my attempt to meet them half way.
mauvais
on reddit or something
Probably not, unless excess speed could be shown to be a factor, and it's unlikely to happen within speed awareness course thresholds. Even driving some way beyond the limit doesn't necessarily produce consequences for the offender in terms of either prosecution or insurance settlement - e.g. where the injured party's negligence was the dominant factor.
sleaterkinney
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Of course they are, otherwise you wouldn’t be able to be tried for them. The issue is the cops going for the lower charge and the inadequate penalties for it.
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Plastic Paddy
Well they charge the offence that is most likely to result in a successful prosecution. All penalties are too lenient, not just motoring ones.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
The example they gave was a woman, late 40’s smashed in to a bloke who ran across the road by Debenhams in Guildford late at night without looking and killing him at 44mph. She got six years prison. Was quite sobering as it is a road where 44 wouldn’t even feel that fast, the limit is 30 though. The suggestion that had she been going 54 he’d still be alive is not a good one to make at such an event.
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Plastic Paddy
You also have fog lights at the back. Don’t put them on unless you’re in poor visibility. They can sometimes obscure your brake lights and dazzle drivers behind you.
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Plastic Paddy
Put them on when you can’t clearly see cars about a football field in front of you.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Then leave them on for the next three weeks once the fog clears, seems to be what most people believe...
bimble
floofy
Another boring car question sorry, don't know where else to put it:
Small chip in windscreen, noticed it today but can't have been there long.
Looks like a little spider, maybe 5cm across, must be from a stone.
So do i need to fix it in case it grows or is it just a minor annoyance.
And if i need to fix it how?
Small chip in windscreen, noticed it today but can't have been there long.
Looks like a little spider, maybe 5cm across, must be from a stone.
So do i need to fix it in case it grows or is it just a minor annoyance.
And if i need to fix it how?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Check you insurance and/or breakdown cover and you might be able to get it fixed gratis. And you should get it fixed. Sounds big enough to be an MOT fail, assuming it doesn't get worse.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
bollocks, MOT was done about 2 weeks ago, spider definitely wasn't there then.
Better two weeks after your MOT than two days before.
bimble
floofy
true. I will phone them in morning and try to read the enormous thing that is the insurance docs, maybe.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
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Plastic Paddy
It depends where it is on the windscreen as to whether you can have it repaired I think.
They're not worth pissing about with though. Just claim for a new one on your insurance. The excess will probably be around £70.
ETA> Windscreen claims don't usually affect your NCB or load your next premium but you've not been driving long so it may be different. Just ring up your insurance helpline and ask. Don't leave it though. Cracks get bigger.
wemakeyousoundb
hopefully not gimboid
MOT fails also depends on where it is situated on the windscreen ( I have read the MOT tester instructions manual: shame on me)
To reply to the opening post: standard of driving is dreadful these days.
The amount of boy racers on the A12 and A13 is incredible, even in these pandemic days, on a Monday night no less, shameful.
To reply to the opening post: standard of driving is dreadful these days.
The amount of boy racers on the A12 and A13 is incredible, even in these pandemic days, on a Monday night no less, shameful.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Depends where on the screen it is.
Depends on whether or not it needs a new screen.
bimble
floofy
It's smaller than i said, 4cm or less across i think. When i showed it to Mike the garage man yesterday he said I will need to replace the windscreen because its not just a chip, said its an insurance job no effect on my no-claims but also said no rush as it is only little and not in my direct line of sight, suggested just keep an eye on it, deal with it when it gets bigger.
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Plastic Paddy
If it’s large enough to require a replacement just get it replaced. Why wait? You’re going to have to get it done anyway and if it expands whilst your driving or away from home it could be a bigger pain in the arse to get sorted than having it fixed now at your convenience.
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