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gentlegreen said:
Ignore the drivers behind you.
Even as a cyclist I don't stand for it.
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The thing is, the layout at some junctions/ roundabouts means that at particularly busy times, if one observed the Highway Code to the letter, one would simply not be able to advance for hours at an end.

It goes without saying that you should never put anyone at risk regardless of how many impatient drivers show their displeasure behind you, but in bumper-to-bumper situations where there is no real risk of a collision, sometimes there is no option but to to inch your way forward even if it means contravening some HC rule or other.
 
Cyclist killer's six-month sentence 'does not fit crime' - BBC News

A six-month prison term handed to a motorist who killed an ex-international cyclist in a crash "does not fit the crime," British Cycling has said.

Motorcyclist Leighton Santos, 22, admitted causing David Hitchen's death through careless driving and was jailed at Preston Crown Court on Monday.

The maximum sentence is five years, but this can be reduced by a guilty plea.
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In addition to the six months for causing death by careless driving, Santos was also given 12 months for another motoring offence.

In March 2016 he was convicted at Manchester Crown Court of dangerous driving after taking police on an eight-mile pursuit that saw him reach speeds of up to 90mph (145km/h) in a 30mph zone.
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What a cunt of a human, what shit sentencing.
 
I didn't expect that, a motorcyclist killing a cyclist! Really would have thought he would have been more cautious, thoughtful etc. Big big fail.
 
Going home in the dark last night .....there's a single twisty lane with scattered wide passing spaces into the village.... saw the light of a car accelerating up to the bend in front of me.... past a well used wide bit for pulling in to let cars go through ... Then the car came around the corner still accelerating... .....and completely took out my night sight.....four beams ...but the middle two were like fucking lasers.....pulled hard into the bank and hedge folding my mirror with a bang..and scuffing the paint over both wheel arches ...while the car hurtled past inches to spare and I swear , rocking mine ...,......got no idea what car it was ....?..or even the colour
I just sat there ...for minutes....letting my heart rate drop ...and waiting for my eyesight to return....what a bell end ......those spots can't have been legal....like a continual lightening flash.....
Closest I've had to a tap in a long time
 
I hate to say this, but he probably got away with it as it is well engineered car rather than tricky driving skillz. Still don't like them though
 
This was in a 40 limit. Bet it was doing a little more than that! Shocking photos of wrecked BMW after woman seriously injured in Wandsworth crash

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not-bono-ever said:
I hate to say this, but he probably got away with it as it is well engineered car rather than tricky driving skillz. Still don't like them though
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Having watched that video, he got away with it by pure luck. The Clio was slowing down, which he failed to account for when he jumped out in his haste from behind the car he was following, so he clipped his arse on that, and flipped himself up. Anyone capable of that idiocy isn't likely to suddenly manifest the motor skills necessary to keep his car up. It's bloody lucky he didn't smash into the van.
 
existentialist said:
Having watched that video, he got away with it by pure luck. The Clio was slowing down, which he failed to account for when he jumped out in his haste from behind the car he was following, so he clipped his arse on that, and flipped himself up. Anyone capable of that idiocy isn't likely to suddenly manifest the motor skills necessary to keep his car up. It's bloody lucky he didn't smash into the van.
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What you don't see there is the cyclist that is just out of shot who caused the accident by distracting the car drivers.
 
When I was a biker we used to let our pals ride our bikes on the condition that they pay for anything they broke. If this guy had such a rule it could have prevented him borrowing the Lambo in the first place!
 
Agreed. I know not. But I have already mentioned, the in car infotainment systems are extremly complicated and very taxing to operate whilst driving.
They should be disabled unless the handbrake is applied?
 
What about satnav? I think ok when it is just working but to try and adjust it while moving would be extreme folly. In fact I think on Japanese satnavs adjustments are prohibited by software unless the vehicle is stationary. I would be happy to see that implemented here also.
 
hash tag said:
Most modern infotainment now includes sat nav?
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Mine does and you can enter towns/postcodes whilst driving; would be as mad as reading a book whilst driving tho.

Same for the ipod function on it, you can scroll through every tune to see what you want. I've only got about 20,000 to choose from...
 
hash tag said:
The penalties for driving on the phone have just increased (bringing the issue to everyones attention), the roads are busy, it's wet....(no mention of police action?)

Biker catches woman using her phone while driving - and she doesn't react well
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West Mids police have caught a silly number of drivers this week, I can't remember the figure but they've fined/points for everyone and it adds up to £47,000!
Hopefully the police will act on that video footage, they will prosecute from video footage now in some forces and I think the met police do.
 
weltweit said:
What about satnav? I think ok when it is just working but to try and adjust it while moving would be extreme folly. In fact I think on Japanese satnavs adjustments are prohibited by software unless the vehicle is stationary. I would be happy to see that implemented here also.
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Waze does that - it asks you to confirm that you're the passenger if you press things while it's moving.

Ultimately, though, the responsibility - as it should - rests with the driver.
 
The law doesn't have to be specific about individual devices an behaviors TBF - if the filth want to do you, there are lots of existing regs they could do you under of they wanted- driving without due care and attention/ careless driving and stuff
 
Last week I told off one driver who was driving holding the wheel with just her right hand with a water bottle clamped between it and the wheel.

This morning there was one driver with a mobile obviously affecting their driving and a second one driving with no hands.

... I was running late, so encountered a load of impatient drivers driving at me in narrow streets so my standard "two for one at Specsavers" quip got a fair bit of use.
 
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