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I had a slight scare a few days ago. Approaching a left hand corner a truck was coming towards me and they were a foot over the while middle line. I could fit between that and the verge but it was definitely some mis-driving from the trucker.

He was probably in the middle of facebooking his mates!

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for those on tapatalk or whatever, this is West Mids traffic police saying that in 20/30mph zones, 78% of drivers speed, and would be 90%+ if not for congestion, and that they did one rural speed check where not a single driver managed to keep within the speed limit.
 
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for those on tapatalk or whatever, this is West Mids traffic police saying that in 20/30mph zones, 78% of drivers speed, and would be 90%+ if not for congestion, and that they did one rural speed check where not a single driver managed to keep within the speed limit.


The 20mph are really a problem, no one seems to give a rats arse especially the police, its just not enforced in London. If you drive at 20mph in these areas in London you'll have traffic crawling all over your arse trying to overtake.

As for the rural stuff, well that's always been a problem. I've always loved the little signs (hand drawn by the local primary school kids) requesting people slow down in the village whilst the locals all speed around the place mostly drunk.
 
The 20mph are really a problem, no one seems to give a rats arse especially the police, its just not enforced in London. If you drive at 20mph in these areas in London you'll have traffic crawling all over your arse trying to overtake.

As for the rural stuff, well that's always been a problem. I've always loved the little signs (hand drawn by the local primary school kids) requesting people slow down in the village whilst the locals all speed around the place mostly drunk.

Yep - West Mids Police are enforcing the 20mph limits in this area but they are basically ignored. They are also doing that with kids, but having the police pull speeding drivers over, who then get the choice between points/fine or going to "kids court" where they get dressed down by the schoolkids, I remember someone, Banhoff Strasse I think, saying police in their area do this as well - it's a great idea I think.
 
The 20 limits are crazy. Round here they are on lots of side roads and some main roads. The roads around the commons, which are not fenced
and well used by people of all ages and for dog walking are all 30. Theses roads should be 20. Also, if they made entire areas 20, it would be less sinage and could easily be monitered by average speed cameras :confused:
 
GMP stopped rolling out 20 mph zones because it's a waste of everyone's time. Quite right IMO - the blanket implementation produced a disconnect between authority and drivers.
 
GMP stopped rolling out 20 mph zones because it's a waste of everyone's time. Quite right IMO - the blanket implementation produced a disconnect between authority and drivers.

I agree to an extent. Inappropriate speed limits are useless because they are widely ignored. Stick 20mph everywhere seems to mean that everyone just gets on and speeds which is crap because there are a lot of roads where 20mph is entirely appropriate.
 

Not quite sure what the sentence was as headline says 6 years and there are severl references in the text to 3 years. That is neither here nor there.
Something of little consequence is the killer has to live with this on his conscience for the rest of his life.

As for speed limits; 20 is being rolled out all over the place in Wandsworth and not very well at that. In many places, it is clear speeds are being monitored. I am sure that if drivers do not adhere to the limit, speed humps/cameras or whatever will be introduced.
 
Not quite sure what the sentence was as headline says 6 years and there are severl references in the text to 3 years. That is neither here nor there.

Over the drink drive limit, speeding, distracted + defective vehicle. Killed two girls, got 6 years, 3 of which must be served in prison. 18 months prison per girl killed.

No sentence can bring them back, but it's very hard to see where 18 months inside per life is fitting when he was so very reckless.
 
Assuming he's not over the limit is he actually breaking the law? A dumb thing to do for sure but which law is he breaking?
 
Assuming he's not over the limit is he actually breaking the law? A dumb thing to do for sure but which law is he breaking?
He's not breaking the law but it's absolutely guaranteed to get you a pull if the OB see it, therefore fucking stupid.
 
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Lets hope he didn't spill anything.
Bahnhof Strasse, you might know the roads that run between Brookwood Cemetary, through the ranges. I was driving home towards Farnborough from Woking one afternoon when I came across a car that was twisted at right angles to the road; it had smashed into a tree. The roads, are fast, undulating, quite narrow and bendy. The first thing I did was stop my car, a safe distance away, hazards Etc. Before checking on the car. There were two adults only in the car, both injured but not too badly and two bags of fish and chips all over the insides. Had they not been eating their food, it would have still been safely wrapped in paper :facepalm:
 
hash tag I am aware of these roads, my mate Rich lives in Knaphill, so am in the area frequently. Thanks for the advice, from now on my fish supper will remain wrapped for the journey, with just a side order of battered sausage resting between my hand and the wheel to satisfy the need for in-journey nutrition.
 
for those on tapatalk or whatever, this is West Mids traffic police saying that in 20/30mph zones, 78% of drivers speed, and would be 90%+ if not for congestion, and that they did one rural speed check where not a single driver managed to keep within the speed limit.
Then , quite obviously, the speed limits need to be raised to a more appropriate level.
 
'Driving without due care & attention', the legal catch-all.
They still have to show that the actual driving fell below the required standard which in this blokes case, it didn't apparently. If he's not over the limit and not driving badly it's no different (legally) to having a swig from a bottle of water and I think we've all done that, haven't we?
 
. . . it's no different (legally) to having a swig from a bottle of water and I think we've all done that, haven't we?

I seem to remember several years ago a case popping up under the heading of "Outraged of BlahBlah" where someone did, in fact, get nicked for doing just that, whilst stationary, in a queue of traffic, with the hand brake on
 
I seem to remember several years ago a case popping up under the heading of "Outraged of BlahBlah" where someone did, in fact, get nicked for doing just that, whilst stationary, in a queue of traffic, with the hand brake on
Wasn't that about someone using a phone?
 
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