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Dogsauce
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A lot of supercars can be hired for a day, people sometimes rent them on special occasions such as weddings or Eid, drive them like twats for a bit then hand them back. Sometimes they don't get away with it. I guess the excess/insurance must be pretty high to account for this.
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Like this you mean 
There is a sort of thread devoted to his. Hiring a supercar on the road I guess is about a grand with about £5k insurance. Alternatively, you can really let rip and safely, on a track day for a couple of hundred. Great fun too.
There is a sort of thread devoted to his. Hiring a supercar on the road I guess is about a grand with about £5k insurance. Alternatively, you can really let rip and safely, on a track day for a couple of hundred. Great fun too. You want a big wedding? check. 500 guests to the breakfast? check. You want to push the boat out? check.
White wedding; everything white? fine. You want yor wedding in all the National Papers Etc. No problemo
Ferrari 458 Spider owned by Lord Aleem worth £240,000 SMASHES into house
Facebook driver jailed over fatal crash in Southampton - BBC News
Theres are car somewhere in there!
The lorry driver only got 6 years
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
It'll be the longest 3 (I presume he'll qualify for early release) years of his life, even so.The lorry driver only got 6 years
I think there are moves afoot to change the law and increase the penalties for causing death by dangerous driving. I think there's certainly scope for particularly reckless or careless driving, but I do worry that this might just be one of those things where the level of sentencing ends up being determined by the level of public outrage, rather than necessarily reflecting the nature of the crime.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
It's a tricky one. No one who drives does so without losing concentration from time to time. Sometimes that tiny moment of inattention can have catastrophic consequences, yet the perpetrator didn't set out to do any harm and didn't really do anything different to what we all do, all the time. So what is the point in putting them in prison?
Those who drive drunk, or who race on the public road, tweet, facebook or any of the other mad shit that people get up to, when they cause death and serious injury IMO they should face far harsher penalties as the destruction they cause is 100% avoidable and caused by their own selfish behaviour.
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I think anyone who is convicted of death by dangerous or wrckless driving will have to live with it on their conscience for the rest of their lives. Then there is thier families and their livelehood in some cases. On the other side of the coin, most of the people who get convicted of these actions never get anything near the maximum sentence as it is so I am not sure that increasing the sentence will do any good.
It is clear that more and more people are using their smart phones at the wheel and vehicles have increasingly sophisticated infotainment consoles in them these days. In a hire car I had recently, it was difficult to change from one media to another and from one radio station to another, a job which was taking minutes not seconds. Something has to be done about the education of drivers.
It is clear that more and more people are using their smart phones at the wheel and vehicles have increasingly sophisticated infotainment consoles in them these days. In a hire car I had recently, it was difficult to change from one media to another and from one radio station to another, a job which was taking minutes not seconds. Something has to be done about the education of drivers.
BigTom
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I think we need lifetime driving bans and generally much harsher driving bans being handed out (none of this, "I need it for my livelyhood your honor" crap, magistrates letting offenders off bans because they ask nicely), which are then followed by prison sentences if broken.
Agree totally on drunk driving, mobile use etc - these are totally negligent and those people have shown that they need to be locked up so they don't harm other people.
weltweit
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I think my driving skills may have declined a little. I haven't been driving as much as I used to which may be to blame, but apart from having to do an emergency stop on Friday, on Sunday I forgot to check my blind spot in the middle lane at night, indicated and started to move across before realising that another car already occupied that space! 
I think my driving skills may have declined a little. I haven't been driving as much as I used to which may be to blame, but apart from having to do an emergency stop on Friday, on Sunday I forgot to check my blind spot in the middle lane at night, indicated and started to move across before realising that another car already occupied that space!
Time to hand back your licence pops.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I think my driving skills may have declined a little. I haven't been driving as much as I used to which may be to blame, but apart from having to do an emergency stop on Friday, on Sunday I forgot to check my blind spot in the middle lane at night, indicated and started to move across before realising that another car already occupied that space!
That you are acknowledging these mistakes probably shows that you're actually not too bad behind the wheel
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weltweit
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My dad drove into his late 70s, mind you his passengers weren't always happy about it
BigTom
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This is why you should always drink from a bottle!
on my ride home tonight, a driver decided that they would overtake me and nearly crashed into an oncoming car and inches away from me in secondary position (around 50-75cm from the kerb when she started to overtake and a lot closer by the end). I caught up with her at the next junction a few hundred yards down the road obviously so she gained exactly 0 seconds with this, as is typical (not chasing, I cba, just cos of traffic, she goes nowhere). I'm going to get a camera now I think, as west mids police would have prosecuted that and she'd have an NIP on the way for due care & attention, 3 points + fine.
BigTom
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That you are acknowledging these mistakes probably shows that you're actually not too bad behind the wheel
yes, self-awareness / self-reflectivity seems to be missing amongst many road users (though that's mostly judged on facebook/twitter/youtube conversations I see rather than real life as I can never really be arsed to discuss things with drivers anymore). Also he indicated which is pretty rare around birmingham anyway so at least the other driver had a chance to react/beep.
Spymaster
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The windscreen gets in the way so I'd have to tilt my head at a weird angle and that would be dangerous.
BigTom
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nah, decant it into a smaller bottle, a water bottle is good cos at a glance the cops won't pay attention to it.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
My car has a radar thing in the wing mirrors and when a vehicle is in your blind-spot an orange light comes on on the bit of the mirror casing that points towards the car. If when this is lit you indicate in that direction it blinks brightly and furiously. Which is a good safety device, alas it is an Audi, so of course we don't indicate before changing lanes...
High Voltage
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Know the feeling . . . not that long ago I had a bit of a mobile speed camera fright, luckily the number plates were covered in dirt so there's no way of tracking me, but the stress, I can tell you, I need 3 or 4 Vallies about an hour before setting off to take the edge off the worry
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Or they just compartmentalise/move on. The odd troubling dream or moment of regret.
Same for anyone breaking the law.
Er... I'm assuming they would increase sentences across the board. A judge considering a sentence can't just slap the maximum penalty on, they use sentencing guidelines, taking aggravating/mitigating circumstances into account.
Like sticking a fucking great sign on the console saying 'learn how to use the radio before you drive off'?
I think it's worth remembering that causing a fatal accident is judged against the standard of a competent and careful driver. You'll only get dangerous driving if you fall far below that standard... Careless simply if you fall below. So if someone gets a dangerous driving conviction the prosecution has to have shown they've fallen well below the standard of a competent and careful driver. I don't know what exactly standard the competent and careful driver is held to be (probably case law on it), but it's not the standard of an infallible or perfect driver. This is criminal conviction, not insurance companies battling it out over fault.
weltweit
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Why California banned holding smart phones in cars
California is to ban the holding of smart phones while driving.
California is to ban the holding of smart phones while driving.
Bahnhof Strasse
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weltweit
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Sure the penalty isn't much.
In other driving standards news:
Lord Heseltine fined for knocking cyclist off bike - BBC News
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Quite hefty that. Good.
Spymaster
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Hope the UK don't do that. My posting rate on here will plummet.
BigTom
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"From 1 January 2017 it will be illegal to have your phone in your hand while you're on the road"
So easy, just hold it with your foot, or mouth, or mount it on your steering wheel. They really haven't thought this one through
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
As a self confessed not very good driver, I'd be genuinely grateful for advice on what I should do in a situation I now experience a lot
- Roundabout controlled by lights.
- I'm waiting to enter
- Too much traffic from the right blocks me going straight.
- My light goes green
- I wait for my lane to clear, and my light goes red
- Drivers behind me getting impatient
- My late goes green, I go forward, blocking traffic from the right that has itself been delayed and is now trying to rush through.
- Mayhem and horns and absurd threading between lanes.
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