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I hope she get a suitably lengthy sentence. 3 to 5 years would suffice.


Wasn't there a study that said that using a handsfree was about the same distraction as drink driving?

I don't know of any official study but Mythbusters did an experiment which showed that using hands-free was no less of a distraction and just as dangerous as holding the phone to your ear and driving with one hand.
 
I hope she get a suitably lengthy sentence. 3 to 5 years would suffice.

I don't know of any official study but Mythbusters did an experiment which showed that using hands-free was no less of a distraction and just as dangerous as holding the phone to your ear and driving with one hand.

I am struggling with this one, most modern cars have on-board computers that connect to your mobile for hands-free operation. Is having a hands-free conversation on the phone anymore distracting than a conversation with others in the vehicle?
 
Yes.....see earlier posts. A passenger will have an idea what's happening on the road and will sub consciously warn you of danger in some way, even if it's suddenly just stopping talking. Someone on the end of a phone cannot do this.
 
Yes.....see earlier posts. A passenger will have an idea what's happening on the road and will sub consciously warn you of danger in some way, even if it's suddenly just stopping talking. Someone on the end of a phone cannot do this.

I've yet to be in a car when kids have suddenly just stopped talking to the driver, yet I've been in a car when a driver has told someone on the phone to wait as he's got a tricky situation to deal with.

I would point out I don't have hands-free operation in my vans, and I have no wish to take calls whilst driving.

But, at the end of the day, the fault rests with the driver allowing themselves to be distracted.

Ban hand-free mobile kit, ban kids from cars.
 
When is a hands free not a Hands free?
Does this mean hands free via the infotainment systems, which can be operated by steering wheel buttons or voice, should also be banned.

I reckon so. But it is unenforceable until there is an accident.
 
I am struggling with this one, most modern cars have on-board computers that connect to your mobile for hands-free operation. Is having a hands-free conversation on the phone anymore distracting than a conversation with others in the vehicle?
It is considerably more distracting.
Pretty much all modern cars have cup holders, but drinking your morning coffee on the way to work isn't safe, despite many people thinking otherwise.
Sat-navs are probably as bad as, or even worse than phones, unless people are using their phones to update their Facebook status whilst driving, and it's astounding how many people actually do this!

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Yeah, my brother has one of these on-board computer screens on the dashboard, which frankly I would find very distracting.

But, OTOH, holding a one-to-one conversation on the hands-free set-up would be less distracting to me than having three screaming kids in the back seat.
 
When is a hands free not a Hands free?
Does this mean hands free via the infotainment systems, which can be operated by steering wheel buttons or voice, should also be banned.

I reckon so. But it is unenforceable until there is an accident.

This is one reason why the law does not ban hands-free.
 
Lumps of snow falling off vehicles are also hazardous for cyclists and other vehicles as they can leave big patches of compressed snow/ice on the road, more than can be quickly dissolved by road salt. Easy to slide/skid on. It was something I'd encounter in Leeds when cars had come into town from snowy settlements on the outskirts, even if there was no snow in the city itself. Something inexperienced riders might not know to look out for.
 
Yes, for example if you don't clear your roof and or bonnet you can be fined and get points on your licence, I forget exactly what the offence is but it is an offence.
 
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