Just catching up on various things...
I mean, I suppose in the long run the end goal's anarchist communism, but as a medium-term goal I'd be happy with getting gestures wildly this fucking thing to stop happening.
About focusing on bigotry vs "legitimate concerns" or whatever, this is what I mean by strategy, it's not about saying whether bigotry or people having economic worries is more important, it's what we can do with those things.
Like, if you start from people being bigoted, where does that lead you, what can you say? You can say "that's bad, you shouldn't do that", and maybe that's worthwhile in its way, but I dunno how likely that is to change anyone's mind. But if you start from people being worried about not being able to afford groceries, then you can say "I agree you should be able to afford groceries, but I don't think what you're doing is the best way of achieving that", and that seems more likely to go somewhere productive. And fwiw I think this has merit even if the bigotry is really important - hard to settle these things, I'm sure for many Trump voters, probably the majority, there's a confused and confusing mix of the bigotry and thinking eggs are too expensive, but even if we agreed to arbitrarily say that, say, 90% of Trump supporters are mostly driven by bigotry and 10% mostly care about the cost of eggs and toothpaste, a serious attempt at peeling off 10% of Trump's support would still be worthwhile and a good thing.
What does this actually mean, though? Are we talking about killing all 72,743,156 (at last count) people who voted for Trump? Cos if you're doing that, I think it only seems sensible to also kill everyone who voted for the party that's arming Netanyahu, deporting migrants and taking oil production to record levels. I dunno what we're doing with non-voters and people who voted third party, but it'd be a bit rude to leave them out.
Appreciate you've dipped out of the conversation, but for the record, see above, IAF's approach seems to be exactly that.
Again, this isn't about blame, that's not that interesting to me. What I (and people who think like me?) am trying to do, no matter how ineptly, is to offer constructive critique about how to do things better in future. I'm not interested in offering constructive criticism to Trump or Trump supporters because I don't want them to do better, I want them to fail; I want antifascists (or however you define "our lot") to do well, which is why it's worth looking at our weaknesses.
Mostly covered in previous posts, but just to say - it's not about going around saying "class power", "what do you think of operaismo?", "have you heard of a man called Sergio Bologna?" or whatever, it's about "I think we should get a pay rise that keeps up with inflation", "I think we should get time and a half instead of flat rate for working overtime", "I reckon the letting agent needs to sort out that black mould without charging you any extra for it", "I don't reckon your landlord should be able to put the rent up by that much", etc etc etc. All that stuff is where class power is built, the stuff that it directly impacts on.
Again, I'm probably repeating myself here, but for me it's not "this reason is important and that reason isn't", it's "I think focusing on this reason opens up the possibility that people might be persuaded to think differently, and I can't see how focusing on that reason does".
Fwiw, I would say that at least part of the right's cultural hegemony consists precisely in the ability to keep people talking about nonsense like "wokeness" and not about the price of rent and eggs.