Does class still matter?

[butchersapron]

Character matters more

Bye then.

 

[butchersapron]

I've checked and I've never posted on this thread before so I'm holding everybody accountable for every last word. Especially that Kameron character who said class didn't matter and was some sort of self defined phenomenon which internally held people back before ending with saying he is 'solidly middle class' or something, no doubt a libdem MEP by now

He was, believe it or not, a hero of certain types on this board many years ago. I always thought he became that diamond knobber.

 

[rekil]

Never really was too much an issue in this country, always seen it as an English preoccupation.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Daft question.... are the list of votes in the order people voted?

 

[repetitionworks]

compare Charles who is seen as a weird guy and not popular, but he is known for his weird marriage, his charity work, and his kids who are quite popular

Andrew has the same background and he is just seen as a wrongun, even before the recent thing,

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

compare Charles who is seen as a weird guy and not popular, but he is known for his weird marriage, his charity work, and his kids who are quite popular

Andrew has the same background and he is just seen as a wrongun, even before the recent thing,

It’s the like the whole thread never happened

 

[butchersapron]

compare Charles who is seen as a weird guy and not popular, but he is known for his weird marriage, his charity work, and his kids who are quite popular

Andrew has the same background and he is just seen as a wrongun, even before the recent thing,

And the background to both of this, their prior public profile, is their character.

It's right, in that yours will tell soon enough though.

 

[chilango]

 

[repetitionworks]

And the background to both of this, their prior public profile, is their character.

It's right in that yours will tell soon enough though.

I think that you need a grammar coach

 

[mauvais]

Daft question.... are the list of votes in the order people voted?

Probably. It would have been vBulletin at the time though, so no guarantees.

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Probably. It would have been vBulletin at the time though, so no guarantees.

Just wondering if I voted strongly agree in 2009, or last night after 4 nights on the trot. If former, I high five my 2009 self.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Wonder what being banned returner says about yer character

 

[HoratioCuthbert]

Wonder what being banned returner says about yer character

More than it says about your class maybe

 

[weltweit]

It interests me that class and money are not closely tied.

If you are an aristocrat but broke you remain an aristocrat.
If you are a rich middle class person you remain middle class.
And if you are a super rich working class person you often remain working class.

But money does buy privilege.

 

[Steel Icarus]

It interests me that class and money are not closely tied.

If you are an aristocrat but broke you remain an aristocrat.
If you are a rich middle class person you remain middle class.
And if you are a super rich working class person you often remain working class.

But money does buy privilege.

How long have you been on this site?

 

[weltweit]

How long have you been on this site?

Why? quite a while is the answer, but I still find money and class to be an interesting topic.

 

[danny la rouge]

There’s a lot in your short post that deserves comment, but I’m busy so let me restrict myself to the following:

And if you are a super rich working class person you often remain working class.

No you don’t.

 

[butchersapron]

Or deserves short comment. It's just too late.

 

[weltweit]

.. No you don’t.

Are you talking about class as in associations to the means of production?

I was more aiming at social class.

 

[brogdale]

Are you talking about class as in associations to the means of production?

I was more aiming at social class.

You mean sociocultural background.

 

[weltweit]

You mean sociocultural background.

I could if that is a better term, yes.

 

[brogdale]

I could if that is a better term, yes.

So why are you equating that to socioeconomic status?

 

[weltweit]

So why are you equating that to socioeconomic status?

All I am saying is that I notice money, and I notice sociocultural background, and I notice despite money one cannot so easily change sociocultural background. Sociocultural background seems hard wired in.

 

[Santino]

No one ever went to bed thinking 'I'm glad I spent so much time today trying to get weltweit to understand something.'

 

[Rob Ray]

All I am saying is that I notice money, and I notice sociocultural background, and I notice despite money one cannot so easily change sociocultural background. Sociocultural background seems hard wired in.

Working class voices with aren't lots of money aren't well liked by a subculture of the ruling class because of what it says about their cherished genetic specialness. Don't mistake this for a situation where a rich fellow with a regional accent would be denied support against their workers however - the rich understand the importance of class solidarity.

 

[butchersapron]

Don't say fellow.

 

[ferdinand]

I think it sounds pathetic when politicians and social climbers wallow in their lower working class background and the 'Made Its' who say, 'You can do anything if you try,' rather than 'I was lucky to be in the right place at the right time.'

 

[N_igma]

It’s funny reading posts from a younger less educated self. Glad I’ve learnt and still am learning to this day

 

[butchersapron]

It’s funny reading posts from a younger less educated self. Glad I’ve learnt and still am learning to this day

I knew you were a good 'un. Time. Just time.

 

[brogdale]

All I am saying is that I notice money, and I notice sociocultural background, and I notice despite money one cannot so easily change sociocultural background. Sociocultural background seems hard wired in.

Try thinking about what you post; without a time machine, it is impossible for anyone to change their sociocultural background.