danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Oh, sufferingfuck, grow up. You know fine what he means.
Do you read Private Eye?
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What points have you raised belboid....Apart from your point that you know what ive read.. You sad scabby twat.
Yes.....He means he's clever......
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
He means reading any publication is useful as long as you remember that where it's coming from is part of the story. This is not an elite sport, but it's worth mentioning in a discussion such as this.
people claimed.....What people claimed? Did anybody claim in print about Heath and Mountbatten?
supporting evidence........ What kind of evidence did you have in mind clouseau?
from what you know of Scallywag ( a magazine you never read) it had a scattergun approach what compared to your deep deep precision.....erm
nowhere did i say that private eye had been better in the past.....so cant quite understand if your trying to answer a point you think i made but diddnt....Wouldnt suprise me tho...
you wouldnt think private eye was establishment cos you think your politics is anti establishment which is laughable.
The politics of private eye are as safe and timid as yours but really not quite as funny.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
So, you can't answer any of the points then.
Come on, try a bit, rather than just throwing your rattle out of the pram and telling me how thick i am, why don't you come up wityh something solid that Scallywag was the first to print, and was then proved true. Was the 'tory treasurer' you referred to actually involved in Kincora? Or was it just a name thrown around, along with many others.
The accusations against Health and Mountbatten were made - in print - by Michael Keaney and in the book War of the Windsors respectively.
Come on, try a bit, rather than just throwing your rattle out of the pram and telling me how thick i am, why don't you come up wityh something solid that Scallywag was the first to print, and was then proved true. Was the 'tory treasurer' you referred to actually involved in Kincora? Or was it just a name thrown around, along with many others.
The accusations against Health and Mountbatten were made - in print - by Michael Keaney and in the book War of the Windsors respectively.
Proved true???????
Peterhouse Lilley and Portillo.......
The Tory treasurer was said to be involved in Kincora by Scallywag....Seeing as he was one of the richest and most powerful men in the country at the time i thought if it was untrue he would have sued them......
I dont remember everything that Scallywag ever printed....and i certainly dont know (or cant remember) anything about Michael Keaney?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
So, the one thing that was true was that some leading tories were gay. Big fucking deal. hardly the scoop of the century.
And as far as the tory treasurer (which one, btw?), no evidence was put forward. I'd guess he didn't sue for the same reason Major didn't initially - no point giving publicity to a small print magazine that wasn't widely read.
And as far as the tory treasurer (which one, btw?), no evidence was put forward. I'd guess he didn't sue for the same reason Major didn't initially - no point giving publicity to a small print magazine that wasn't widely read.
1 Yeah that is probably what you think.
2 How do you no no evidence was put forward? especially as you dont even seem to know his name, you plank.
And your guess that he diddnt sue because he diddnt want to give them publicity.......yes thats probably what he said at the time.....funny that you should too.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Would you care to deal with any of the points, or just repeat your childish insults?
Do you know his name? Why are you so reticent to use it? Indeed, why are you so reticent to say anything specific? Have you lost all your memory? Was the 'expose' of the tories simply the fact that they were gay? ie something that everyone knew, and was the subject of shitloads of comedy at the time? If those were the highlights of the magazines brief life, then it doesn't seem a big loss.
Do you know his name? Why are you so reticent to use it? Indeed, why are you so reticent to say anything specific? Have you lost all your memory? Was the 'expose' of the tories simply the fact that they were gay? ie something that everyone knew, and was the subject of shitloads of comedy at the time? If those were the highlights of the magazines brief life, then it doesn't seem a big loss.
Probably.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
how about heath? he didn't sure either (mountbatten was rather too dead to have done so)
I have plenty of sympathy with a 'publish and be damned' attitude, tho it will always carry the likelihood that you will get fucked over eventually. But I think it is best used on something worthwhile, not outing some tories that all the readers already knew were gay. Nor linking another possible name (which you are still not using for some reason) to a well known scandal, unless you provide a bit of evidence for it. I wouldn't expect you to remember the exact details after all this time, but you must be able to see the difference between simply saying 'so and so was involved' and providing some proper details (preferably of better quality than his nonsense about dianas 'murder').
I have plenty of sympathy with a 'publish and be damned' attitude, tho it will always carry the likelihood that you will get fucked over eventually. But I think it is best used on something worthwhile, not outing some tories that all the readers already knew were gay. Nor linking another possible name (which you are still not using for some reason) to a well known scandal, unless you provide a bit of evidence for it. I wouldn't expect you to remember the exact details after all this time, but you must be able to see the difference between simply saying 'so and so was involved' and providing some proper details (preferably of better quality than his nonsense about dianas 'murder').
what points be specific?
2 Come to think of it I have forgotten his first name....
3 Not that ive lost all my memory but this is where some of your secret powers could come into play......He was the treasurer of the Tory party...Think of a very large building company......Shouldnt be too difficult seeing as you know what and what i havent read and all serious psychic stuff that your so good at.
4 No the expose of Portillo and Lilley wasnt simply that they were gay......I can see why somebody as busy as you might think so.....Perhaps you can use some more of your secret powers to read Scallywag now?
5 Nope i guess Scallywag is no great loss to us when we have the inspiring visionary thoughts of someone like you lord belboid to sort the wheat from the chaff.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
tell us more, do. What was the real expose re Portillo then? Where's the meat?
I am sill intrigued as to why you refuse to 'name the name', tho i can tell who you are referring to now at least. Most odd behaviour.
btw, your insults are getting really crap now, and don't even make much sense. Why not drop them and act the grown up for a while? Or at least come up with something new and/or meaningful.
I am sill intrigued as to why you refuse to 'name the name', tho i can tell who you are referring to now at least. Most odd behaviour.
btw, your insults are getting really crap now, and don't even make much sense. Why not drop them and act the grown up for a while? Or at least come up with something new and/or meaningful.
1 The story also exposed that the affair was well known amongst other tories who hushed it up. It also threw light on the extremely dodgy politics in Peterhouse Cambridge University and a certain proffesor.
2 What intrigues you about that? Crikey if you know what i have and havent read you must surely be able to know why.
3 Right you are Madame Belboid. I will really really try and act all grown up and stuff for you from now on.
nightbreed
Im Bored
I hope your being sarcastic.
nightbreed
Im Bored
Well if it fucking shuts you lot up!!!
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
The irony in you criticizing the Eye for doing something you are doing yourself will, one assumes, not be lost on anyone.
Top bit of irony spotting there agricola.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
"Lobster", several times in the early to mid eighties as they updated the story, and it wasn't just various "high up" tories and labour that were implicated, it was MPs and media commentators too. British intelligence took the reality of child abuse at Kincora and tried to use the fact that the head honcho at Kincora was politically-connected to Ulster prod politicians to weave a story about Ulster and mainland politicians being members of a paedo ring that abused boys at Kincora. Classic smear tactics. Fortunately the whistle got blown before the operation could get beyond its initial stages.
You need to bear in mind the political climate of the 70s when considering the events at Kincora.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yes, and Harold Wilson too.
Read Paul Foot's "Who Framed Colin Wallace" or the first dozen or so issues of "Lobster" and you can even find out which national newspapers printed what, and when they printed it.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
And printed (if memory serves) in the Mirror and a couple of other red-tops.
Wasnt there 2 mags called Lobster VP? only read a couple of copies always a bit too worthy for my liking whereas Scallywag was easier to read.
i didnt realise that Lobster had carried the story did they name "dirty mac" sorry cant name him im on irony fortnight....
i didnt realise that Lobster had carried the story did they name "dirty mac" sorry cant name him im on irony fortnight....
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
You're missing the point that once Colin Wallace revealed the fact that British Intelligence had dreamed up the "politicians in paedo ring" story as part of a destabilisation exercise, the whole thing had no value. Why bother to sue someone who couldn't afford to pay any damages over something that was demonstrably and documentedly a fantasy?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Based on....?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Why are you scared of mentioning MacAlpine by name?
By the way, if you do your maths you'll note that he wasn't the treasurer of the Conservative party at the time that the Kincora home was under the "care" of William McGrath and Raymond Semple, he only attained that exalted (snigger) position later.
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