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Do potatoes count as a vegetable (for nutritional purposes)?
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temper_tantrum
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No - don't understand, sorry
I reckon:
- sausage + potato = not nutritionally balanced
- sausage + proper veg (eg. carrots, kale, peas, broccoli, etc) = nutritionally balanced
You disagree with the latter?
temper_tantrum
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You are wrong!
Though personally I would make Colcannon for it is truly the food of the Gods.
Stop trying to sway people with the introduction of potato+veg hybrids, it'll confuse things
Yeah, this is rather the point. Talking about it being "classed" as a vegetable somehow implies that so long as you put the right label on it, you don't have to worry about the whole issue any more. The fact is that we need a balanced diet that includes a number of different things that will come from various elements of the "vegetable" class. Calling potatoes a vegetable won't mean that they suddenly have the things that green leafy veg has, for example.
pogofish
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I prefer to advocate the more sensible version - 8-13 portions from a minimum of five different fruit and veg groups (incl nuts and seeds). Even the US deems its citizens capable of understanding that.
Now all they need to do is to define a "portion" Still a way to go there!
TRUTH.
as if there is just this ONE evil vegetable out of al the vegetables and fruit on the planet that isn't actually any good for you at all.
this is how those weird religious things about not eating certain foods start i bet.
temper_tantrum
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Additional bonus question: If potatoes don't 'count', what about parsnips? They're quite carb-y, aren't they? Would sausage and parsnip be ok?
I recently heard a television interview of a fairly old very famous news reporter. Sorry I have forgotten her name. On being asked what she had thought of Reagan she said "horrible right-winger who said that ketchup counted as a vegetable in school dinners."
I always like to have a green vegetable on my plate. That will be broccoli or savoy cabbage for preference and strength of flavour - especially with bangers and mash. Onion gravy won't go amiss on sausages either. Also a tomato sliced in half and sizzled in the pan cut side down for not very long. I cook by colour. The tomato adds a dash of red to the plate and is the complementary colour to the green of the cabbage. Yellow mustard on the sausages is good and is a vegetable under the Ronald Reagan system.
Edited to add: a 'portion' in America where the whole 5 portions a day thing was invented by a large vegetable retailing company, is half a cup.
I always like to have a green vegetable on my plate. That will be broccoli or savoy cabbage for preference and strength of flavour - especially with bangers and mash. Onion gravy won't go amiss on sausages either. Also a tomato sliced in half and sizzled in the pan cut side down for not very long. I cook by colour. The tomato adds a dash of red to the plate and is the complementary colour to the green of the cabbage. Yellow mustard on the sausages is good and is a vegetable under the Ronald Reagan system.
Edited to add: a 'portion' in America where the whole 5 portions a day thing was invented by a large vegetable retailing company, is half a cup.
temper_tantrum
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Yeah I'm just trying to establish the boundaries of the 'potatoes don't count' theory.
Blagsta
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It's unscientific rubbish, basically.
Well, no, I suppose not. Lettuce is pretty much water. Also see cucumber.
mr steev
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No - don't understand, sorry
I reckon:
- sausage + potato = not nutritionally balanced
- sausage + proper veg (eg. carrots, kale, peas, broccoli, etc) = nutritionally balanced
You disagree with the latter?
You said sausage and mash or sausage and a vegetable (implying two items), sausage and one type of veg would not be nutritionally balanced no.
temper_tantrum
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Ah right, so you're saying you'd need sausage + 2 veg? But would one of those veg be potato?
Leafster
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I think potatoes are often discounted when it comes to nutritional value.
Potato Nutrition
They can be good for you as part of a balanced diet.
Oh, I don't think Bangers and Mash would constitute a balanced healthy meal (on its own)
Potato Council said:
Potato Nutrition
They can be good for you as part of a balanced diet.
Oh, I don't think Bangers and Mash would constitute a balanced healthy meal (on its own)
Blagsta
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People who draw a distinction between vegetables and carbs make me laugh though.
You Philistine, lettuces have lots of vitamin C in them and are as good as cabbage. I agree about cucumber, that is just cellulose and water and apparently has no food value at all. Water is of course a useful substance to take in though but lettuce will not supply it in much quantity.
Lettuce can be cooked and when it was first introduced that is how it was eaten.
Potatoes also have tonnes of vitamin C. Because you eat a lot of them at once, you're likely to get more vitamin C from potatoes than anywhere else.
Which would admittedly be more useful if we didn't all already overdose on vitamin C anyway, but there you go.
Which would admittedly be more useful if we didn't all already overdose on vitamin C anyway, but there you go.
Well, see above about vitamin C.
I thought lettuce and cabbage were good because of the various enzymes they contained, plus the roughage. Good nutrition is about a lot more than just the labelled vitamins, after all.
temper_tantrum
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Why? I find it a useful rule of thumb. Doesn't mean I think things really are that simple, of course, but I do think that a meal consisting of sausage + potato needs some veg adding to it. Ditto other carbs (pasta, rice etc): I always ask, 'where's the veg?'.
My mum is diabetic and she carb counts, she doesn't count vegetables though.
temper_tantrum
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Weightwatchers give points for potatoes but not for most other veg btw. Probably using the same rationale as for 8115's mum.
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