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Say it aint soHellmann's and Marmite
They are on the essentials list
Say it aint soHellmann's and Marmite
We have a couple of refill shops near me but they work out more expensive than buying packets.
Why?? Is it because it’s middle class or something?
Why am I paying a premium to make the extra effort to go the extra mile (literally…) to the Extra-shop that charges me extra for being able to package up my own nuts and honey ? And why is there no tommy K or white sugar? Why is it all hippy food?
The whole thing is gimmicky when it ought to be standard practice, or at the very least a realistic alternative to more normal shopping.
I (mostly) agree. However soft plastics recycling is awful and even harmful. There are very very few places which actually does it, and they can only recycle a percentage of that they get in. About 5% of the particulates created (iirr) are also released into the wider atmosphere and, being so bloody tiny, are easily breathed in. There has been a significant increase in respiratory problems near the recycling centres. That's if the stuff even gets there, most gets dumped. A study last year followed two plastic bags that were placed into Tesco’s soft plastic take-back box by using tracking devices. One ended up at an incinerator in Poland, the other at an industrial estate in TurkeyAlso, recycling is not the answer and not having the plastic packaging in the first place is much better, but just in case anyone doesn't know, you can take your soft plastics (film, bubble wrap etc) to most supermarkets now for recycling. There's usually some kind of receptacle in the doorway. We've been doing this for about a year and it is an immense amount of plastic. We hardly ever put our landfill bin out now.
Well we sell absolutely shit loads of bags for life....although quite a number of people do bring their own we still have large numbers of people that buy endless amounts of plastic bags. Younger people are some of the worst for it....we are near a uni and the students don'r appear to be able to carry even one or two items......when we occasionally don't have any (delivery fails for instance) it causes loads of aggro and aggression !We sell it at brockwell. Put it in jugs of water and it still wilts within the hour.
I'll certainly be happy to not have to buy a bag of more than I need when the loose stuff runs out 10 mins after the store opens. Many things I'll put straight in my basket but with eg sprouts you still end up with a plastic bag.
I remember reading something about how many millions fewer 'one use' plastic bags were used after being replaced with bigger, thicker 'bags for life' but no mention of how many bags for life people were getting. How much actual reduction there was. I use old shopping bags for landfill bins so use more plastic than I used to. The nylon bags for life I've been using for many years never seem to last more than a few months before they're knackered or lost these days either.
I (mostly) agree. However soft plastics recycling is awful and even harmful. There are very very few places which actually does it, and they can only recycle a percentage of that they get in. About 5% of the particulates created (iirr) are also released into the wider atmosphere and, being so bloody tiny, are easily breathed in. There has been a significant increase in respiratory problems near the recycling centres. That's if the stuff even gets there, most gets dumped. A study last year followed two plastic bags that were placed into Tesco’s soft plastic take-back box by using tracking devices. One ended up at an incinerator in Poland, the other at an industrial estate in Turkey
Greenwashing at its worst. Don't do it.
I really hate refill shops and you've explained why in a nutshell.
Also: everything is always stale.
In big French supermarkets (no doubt just as evil as ours but) there are refill sections where you can buy most dry goods, from the hippie stuff all the way through to Frosties. Not sure that's the answer either but at least it doesn't make it some preserve of people who live in or near posh or gentrified areas!
It is so. I have half a jar of Super U Dijon mustard mayonnaise, but after that it's time to look for alternatives.Say it aint so
They are on the essentials list
and I constantly see people buying heavy-duty carriers from the staff at the scab tills - I wonder how many actually get reused...
I used to get loads when I was in France. Where they were generally cheaper - 1€.my regular one has got 2012 olympics branding on it...
I have never been in the main one, but the local deli has some - a weird mix - coffee and snacks, vegan stuff AND cheese/charcuterie ... they have quite a few jars of coffee beans but the one time I was sufficiently desperate they were stale...They are very much artisanal/health goods shops in disguise
They'll be singing the praises of indoor plumbing next.
I think Lidl marmite was ok on my last test. I too will be reassigning and pretty sure hellmans isnt irreplaceable eitherIt is so. I have half a jar of Super U Dijon mustard mayonnaise, but after that it's time to look for alternatives.
And I am told that Lidl or Aldi "yeast extract" passes muster, so when my Marmite runs out, I'll be investigating.
There should be a different IR signature for paper and plastic.The main stumbling block (other than the gov's total reluctance to do anything that helps the planet) seems to be that the processors of other recyclables don't accept soft plastics because their machines can't tell the difference between soft plastics and paper.
Bring back milk bottles.I think what's needed are consistent interchangeable ranges of packaging that can be taken back and used again and again. Obvious place to start is with drinks.
The Lidl marmite is fine. Not quite as thick or sharp, but fine. It's also a lot cheaper.I think Lidl marmite was ok on my last test. I too will be reassigning and pretty sure hellmans isnt irreplaceable either
I'm only going by what the MRF told us and I no longer work in the job, but I don't think they use NIR to sort there. They made some changes so they could accept black and other dark coloured plastic and, afaik, those can't be sorted by NIR. But as I said I really don't know and am only passing on what I've been told. Possible they're making excuses but I don't really see why they would - they are the ones making money from it after all.There should be a different IR signature for paper and plastic.
Wasn't having a go, I was just pointing out they should be able to tell the difference if they could be bothered.I'm only going by what the MRF told us and I no longer work in the job, but I don't think they use NIR to sort there. They made some changes so they could accept black and other dark coloured plastic and, afaik, those can't be sorted by NIR. But as I said I really don't know and am only passing on what I've been told. Possible they're making excuses but I don't really see why they would - they are the ones making money from it after all.
Wasn't having a go, I was just pointing out they should be able to tell the difference if they could be bothered.