Badger Kitten said:
When people claiming to be ''seeking truth'' don't even bother to query their starting hypothesis - that 9/11 and 7/7 were in many ways similar/the same/a put-up job by the Governments of the time, then I will point out that they are being pretty fucking rubbish.
I never said this. But 9/11 and 7/7 are both attributed to Al-Q and are linked with the "war on terror"
Badger Kitten said:
If one of the conspracy theorists could demonstrate for one minute that they had put anything like the amount of time into investigating the growith of radical and murderous idealogy in the Uk and abroad, than they have into trying to make the facts fit their initial hypothesis - that HMG was behind it or other shadowy forces - then I would have some patience with you people.
I spend a great deal of time investigating the murderous ideology that is wiping out the population of Iraq, causing an exponential growth in the cancer rate, and promoting torture as a means of spreading "democracy"
Badger Kitten said:
Why the fuck can you peole not accept that young British men got onto trains and blew themselves up on purpose?
Dont you think it is even a little bit odd. How many people do you know that would do this?
Badger Kitten said:
Do a bit of research, you clearly enjoy researching stuff - why not look at the amount of stuff on the web about martyrdom operations and the arguments used to convince people that ''this is a war and they are soldiers'' because iof the UK and US foregin policy.
Then why not target the enemies? Someone who is politically aware to be a suicide bomber against the spread of western "democracy" around the globe , must be aware that western democracy is a sham, that we are no more free here than in many countries which are considered totalitarian. Why then pick on us and not the rulers or the occupiers directly?
Badger Kitten said:
What would the point be - yes there is a concept of jihad out there which embraces violent martyrdom. Yes there are some really pissed off people. Yes, people may be so pissed off that they might blow themselves and others up...but four of them...with young families...
Badger Kitten said:
Why do you have to make your stupid theories fit the facts,
I dont. My theory is that there are alternative explainations to the london bombings than suicide bombers. There are no facts which support suicide bombers any more than tricked or duped bombers.
Badger Kitten said:
why don't you do some proper bloody investiagtion for once?
Because I dont have the time or resources. That is why I would like a full public inquiry
Badger Kitten said:
Why can't you believe what happened?
I believe there were bombings, I believe there were people with the bombs, but I have seen no evidence that they were intentional bombers.
Badger Kitten said:
What the fuck is your agenda?
I want to know the truth behind Al-Quaeda. Western governments created it and funded it for years. Now they claim that it is their enemy and they have nothign to do with it while it kills and maims civilians of western powers. Western governments dont have a very good record of telling the truth, I would like a full public inquiry to explore whether they are telling us the full truth about their current relationship with Al-Quaeda
Badger Kitten said:
Why can't you deal with it?
Because last time it was nearly you, next time it might be me.
I pay a lot of good money in taxes to this government so that they can meander round the globe murdering its civilians and thieving their resources in the name of keeping me safe. I dont believe it is doing that, I believe it is putting me in danger in order to make profits for its friends.
I believe that the US government was complicit in the murder of 3,000 of its own citizens to rake in ever greater profits for a tiny rich segment of its population. I believe that the US government was in neglect of its duty of care of up to 8,000 of its civilians to minimise its insurance payments and thieve the resources of its own population for the benefit of that tiny rich segment.
The UK government has deported my friends to countries where they have been raped and watched their families murdered; the UK government has allowed planes loaded with prisoners destined for torture camps refuel on UK land; the UK locks people up on the flimsiest of evidence and has been complicit in sending people to Gitmo. The UK government wants to introduce surveillence on a scale that has never been seen before, yet despite having the most cameraed up capital city in the world, all they can do following a major terrorist atrocity is release a handful of still pictures. The UK government murdered a man on the London Underground in this "war on terror", if there had not been such a stink about it and such obvious lies, it would have been covered up. A friend of mine's son was killed in Iraq after being recruited at the dole office on the promise that he could get a driving licence if he signed up, he was given inadequate training, inadequate equipment and sent to fight an illegal war on the basis of lies. There are now over a hundred UK troops that the British government have sacrificed for that lie...yet worse we are now implicated in the mass murder of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians.
Is complicity in a few murders on the London Underground really so outwith the bounds of possibility.