butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Hooverbag is a 19 year old middle class kid who thinks this is how radicals are supposed to behave and what they're supposed to say.
David Cameron's son dies, aged 6
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Having known him personally for over 20 years, I can tell you that TE would never allow political or class differences to get in the way of basic human decency.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Maybe he means Fucking Eagleton, TE's rarely-mentioned but much, much more hardcore nephew.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
if i take this correctly, you have no sympathy for cameron as it's a class issue, is it the same for all your judgements (and let's include e-numbers in this) you have no sympathy for a grieving tory father, but sympathy for a grieving anarchist father or family? no sympathy for a tory who commits a crime, but sympathy for an anarchist who commits a crime ?
is that how it works?
Oh man, coffee-splatter-keyboard time...
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Fuck a six year old for dying? Nice.
To be honest I don't care about his death either, at least not enough to grow actively emotional, but all this posturing and posing, using your indifference to a strangers grief as a banner to show off what a bad ass rebel you are is just fucking pathetic. And it's absolutely nothing to do with Anarchism whatsoever, it was a child, it had absolutely no responsibility for the beliefs or behaviour of his father.
Dumb fucks.
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
butchersapron is as middle-class as they come - at least I don't take pains to conceal it.
You've got me mixed up. It's fuck all to do with individual people or their political beliefs, it's everything to do with systems of exploitation. Why are we wasting our time bemoaning the "human tragedy" which is the death of Cameroony's son when we have a social system built on human tragedy? If you know the kid, then fine - I can understand why you'd be upset. But no-one here does know him. We gonna start a thread for every single malnourished Ethiopian kid who dies prematurely? How about every Rio kid who gets shot up in gang wars? How about the personal tragedy of wasted life's potential on the planet? No - but for some reason you guys all uncritically give a shout-out about the quite frankly incredibly lucky child of David Cameron, who by the standards of most human beings born with cerebral palsy lived an luxurious life with ample access to treatment and medication.
All I'm asking is for you to look at the bigger picture - it's awash with heart-rending atrocities to humankind.
marty21 said:
You've got me mixed up. It's fuck all to do with individual people or their political beliefs, it's everything to do with systems of exploitation. Why are we wasting our time bemoaning the "human tragedy" which is the death of Cameroony's son when we have a social system built on human tragedy? If you know the kid, then fine - I can understand why you'd be upset. But no-one here does know him. We gonna start a thread for every single malnourished Ethiopian kid who dies prematurely? How about every Rio kid who gets shot up in gang wars? How about the personal tragedy of wasted life's potential on the planet? No - but for some reason you guys all uncritically give a shout-out about the quite frankly incredibly lucky child of David Cameron, who by the standards of most human beings born with cerebral palsy lived an luxurious life with ample access to treatment and medication.
All I'm asking is for you to look at the bigger picture - it's awash with heart-rending atrocities to humankind.
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
If you think I give enough of a shit about you or what you think of me that I would 'posture' in order to impress you then you've got your own narcissistic complex to be concerned about.
lol - crazy urbanite eejits - bunch of egoistic maniacs
lol - crazy urbanite eejits - bunch of egoistic maniacs
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
No you arent, you started your post with "Can't believe how many docile fuckers have fallen for this emotional bullshit. Fuck Cameron and his son".
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
Yeah, moron? Where's the contradiction?
Absolute rubbish. He is in fact a Romanian princeling.
YouSir
Retired from Urban
So the posturing and dick waving is purely for the pleasure of your own ego eh? Well that makes it all better, as long as you didn't think anyone would actually be impressed by how edgy you are.
And nice work with the projection there, I'm sure we'll all lose sleep tonight wondering why the hardcore radical doesn't care what we think of him. Even more torturous given the fact that you keep replying and attempting to justify yourself, albeit incoherently, which would almost make a poster think that you actually did care what we thought.
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
lmao, tool
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Well that's me told then.
Another blow struck against the weak minded fools of Urban then eh?
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
You're still here yourself, I see.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
In the words that you used?
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Your point being? I'll happily admit that I get something out of posting in this thread, a kind of warm glow, like slipping into bed with a hot water bottle. A feeling made possible only by the piss easy opportunity to highlight just how much of a dick you apparently are.
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
I stand by every word I've said here. Show me the contradiction.
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
sad bastard
YouSir
Retired from Urban
When you grow up you'll look back on all this and laugh, or cry, one of the two.
agreed nice one:
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Its here, in the words that you used:
Das Uberdog said:
This is rather different, in fact contradicts your earlier statement:
Das Uberdog said:
JimW
支那暗杀团
You have no class politics, just a mirror image of bourgeois anti-human values. Sort yourself out or fuck off; as it stands you're a liability
JHE
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Pup,
You are a politician. Admittedly, you are a crap, shouty, teenage, Trot politician, so you're not important, but you're a politician nonetheless. You should know stuff that politicians know.
One bit of that stuff is that even if you are a callous or spiteful shit, you should try not to speak callously or cruelly in public - especially if children are involved. You should try to conceal your shittiness.
You don't have to pretend that you care about David Cameron or his wife. You don't have to say anything about their son's death. You should just avoid antagonising people who know that the death of a child is sad, regardless of whose son or daughter the child is.
You are a politician. Admittedly, you are a crap, shouty, teenage, Trot politician, so you're not important, but you're a politician nonetheless. You should know stuff that politicians know.
One bit of that stuff is that even if you are a callous or spiteful shit, you should try not to speak callously or cruelly in public - especially if children are involved. You should try to conceal your shittiness.
You don't have to pretend that you care about David Cameron or his wife. You don't have to say anything about their son's death. You should just avoid antagonising people who know that the death of a child is sad, regardless of whose son or daughter the child is.
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
I hope you don't think I'd present my case like this anywhere that actually mattered.
Urban is no such place.
Tangentally; do you agree?
Urban is no such place.
Tangentally; do you agree?
Das Uberdog
remembers the alamo
You're demanding I be a bourgeois humanist, r-tard, in getting all het up about the individual tragedy of Cameroony's life. I, instead, side with the actually oppressed of the world rather than buying into this hysterical personality politics.
Grow a perspective.
JimW
支那暗杀团
You're the one getting het up attempting the most radical posture. If your politics are so feeble or fucked-up you think compassion for a dead child would be a concession or implies buying into some image, perhaps you might consider your "perspective." There's nothing radical about being a twat, they're ten-a-penny.
Certainly not.
Urban is an *excellent* testing-ground for ideas, because it gives a representative cross-section of young(ish), liberal(ish) British opinion. I've certainly found that my hard-won ability to convince (most) people here of the truth of my opinions concerning religion and politics has paid handsome dividends in other areas.
By the same token, the fact that (almost) no-one here agrees with you ought to give you pause, and make you reflect that perhaps your ideas are not as sound as you thought they were.
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