CWI Split?
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
WRP split into seven, you've some way to go yet.Other organisations split in two. We managed three.
Limerick Red
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not done yet, I hear theres another small split on the way.Other organisations split in two. We managed three.
Re: Murphy, heard someone say "SP have just lost 33% of their seats and 50% of their Brains"
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Is that 4 new ‘organisations of the working class’ now?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Also, where is Nigel Irritable these days? He was always good at offering analysis for the failing of organisations of the left. I’d expect him to be even better now it’s the one he’s a member of!
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Well he might not be. Would be good to have him back though
SpackleFrog
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Nah we're at 4 if you count JIR and his merry band of space raiders.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
So what's happening with this now? Is there now a socialist party (england & wales) in the IDOAWCTCWI (?) and a socialist alternative (uk) in the CWI? Any of the older more known heads cross over to the split? Have there been any rival street stalls across walthamstow high street?
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Yes, no not many, and not as far as I know in Walthamstow.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
What about elsewhere? What I'd really like a handle on is how bitter it is and what sort of political direction the socialist alternative side will take - will it just be SP without taaffe, bring out a paper, same old, or will it take a different direction, or everybody just ends up in labour. All that stuff really.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Effectively the SP have walked out of the CWI. From my perspective, I think you're more likely to see the SP putting out different politics, because they seem to have altered their politics the most.
As far as SA goes there are discussions about how we orientate to Labour etc, there is a paper but we might switch to a magazine format, we're trying to rebuild the CWI in a England and Wales. We don't want to replicate past mistakes but it's not going to be a radically different group.
Unfortunately it is quite bitter, sadly. Both sides are very focused on each other at the minute. Hopefully we move on from that quickly.
Dom Traynor
Tino Pai
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Isn’t there/wasn’t there already a group called RISE in Scotland?
I can appreciate that trying to name your lefty grouplet is a bit like choosing a band name, most of the best have already been taken, but even so..
I can appreciate that trying to name your lefty grouplet is a bit like choosing a band name, most of the best have already been taken, but even so..
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
It's a fucking awful name.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Two maximum but probably just the one.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Fedayn
Well-Known Member
So here it n Scotland was an organisation called Solidarity and then a few years later an organisation called RISE.
Now in Ireland there is an organisation called Solidarity and now also one called RISE (different I word)....
So, Ireland is just following Scotland but with a better accent....
rekil
to menny cranks
Jim Larkin reference. Éirígí got there first but ah sure it'll do. Believe it or not it's still a step up from PBP and the worst acronym of all time, AAA.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
which bit is this tweeter in?
Fedayn
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SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
I quite liked AAA and wasn't particularly sold on Solidarity.
rekil
to menny cranks
It always reminded me of this. Argentine Anticommunist Alliance - Wikipedia
The use of the rotten term 'austerity' and its all in it together connotations was always shortsighted. Don't like Solidarity either. With so many grouplets running around such a little field, it's just asking for trouble.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
In other fun news, someone who reads Urban but doesn't post here recently asked me if Proper Tidy was secretly Peter Taaffe.
JimW
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Fits the age profile for users on these boards.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Lol and what the fuck
Proper Tidy
Arsed
Thinking of it, this is a grave insult, ol' pete not exactly known for his bonhomie and humour. Have been humiliated by an anonymous trot
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Who can forget the dizzy heights of those anti austerity parties and groups that sprung up like a new elixir?
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