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It's nearer £30 for a single LP by a very popular artist now. More in some cases. Especially in store. Online offers better prices, but not always.

Some new albums still fall in to the £20 - £25. Nick Cave's new one is on Rarerwaves for £24.

Here's a snapshot from Rarewaves (which generally offers better prices than most)

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Nanker Phelge said:
It's nearer £30 for a single LP by a very popular artist now. More in some cases. Especially in store. Online offers better prices, but not always.

Some new albums still fall in to the £20 - £25. Nick Cave's new one is on Rarerwaves for £24.

Here's a snapshot from Rarewaves (which generally offers better prices than most)

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If only salaries had kept up with inflation - we'd be able to afford to buy some of these records. As it happens a record = a weekly grocery shop for me (not including cat food).
 
HMV is massively over priced compared to other bricks and mortar. Still
Some value to be had in your local record store.
 
maomao said:
How can I be snobby against multi-millionaire artists? Would it be snobby to call Tracy Emin or Damian Hirst an enemy of beauty?
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It's popular music, pop music ,that lots of people seem to like .... It's just another band.... everyone needs to calm down, if I started writing essays about every band I thought was a bit crap id spend the rest of my life doing it.
Their biggest crime is being popular otherwise everyone would ignore them. They're not an enemy of beauty they're just another band.
 
ska invita said:
Has reminded me how tribal people were about music in the 90s....
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People probably still are, I wouldn't know. I think it's just that we've grown up a bit. Well I hope we have.

Personally, nowadays, I like to see people excited about music, whatever it is. Kids going nuts about Taylor Swift, old duffers like me wondering if I can stretch to 150 quid for a bit of nostalgia, whatever. I read that Simon Price article and thought "God, I used to be an insufferable arse like that." Hopefully I'm not any more.
 
ska invita said:
What I don't get is how a stadium gig costs that much....a small venue gig might make sense but what about economy of scale...oh yeah Taylor swift is a billionaire I remember now
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Doesn't that tap into some argument I read (here or somewhere else..) that the "the music industry" would rather have a few big stars rather than a multitude of less profitable minor ones... I guess this is easy money for everyone involved.. not just the Gallaghers.
 
Voley said:
People probably still are, I wouldn't know. I think it's just that we've grown up a bit. Well I hope we have.

Personally, nowadays, I like to see people excited about music, whatever it is. Kids going nuts about Taylor Swift, old duffers like me wondering if I can stretch to 150 quid for a bit of nostalgia, whatever. I read that Simon Price article and thought "God, I used to be an insufferable arse like that." Hopefully I'm not any more.
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i really thought people had moved on, what with the streaming postmodern mulch everything all at once no barriers music world we are now in

speaking personally in the mid 90s literally all i listened to was jungle and dnb (and a little dub)...oasis were totally irrelevant and the britpop wars in the media seemed insane... the idea that in DnB people would be arguing over who was the authentic voice of the working class or whether the new Andy C tune was appealing too much to the petit booj audience would be ridiculous...(actually now i come to think of it music journalist Simon Reynolds kind of was trying that on a bit but that kind of writing existed in a different world to the scene).... the scene was the scene and the more people that contributed and added their own take the better. I dont really see how Indie is any different, other than how it is perceived and theorised by music journalists and pundits.
 
read the article someone posted a couple of pages back. about the recording of definitely maybe. It was novel for how rough it sounded. Even in the 90s. But I kind of like that. Got thoroughly sick of them more polished anthemic songs they did afterwards. but yeah, the early stuff reminds me of being at college. And I have a soft spot for them.
 
Hollis said:
Doesn't that tap into some argument I read (here or somewhere else..) that the "the music industry" would rather have a few big stars rather than a multitude of less profitable minor ones... I guess this is easy money for everyone involved.. not just the Gallaghers.
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One of the best gigs I've ever seen was George Clintons Parliament at Jazz Cafe - 2011 - I remember the year as I bought a tshirt! ...capacity about 200.... tickets about £20.... the band and entourage numbering about 25....three different drummers that night.... loads of extended family of Georges coming on to sing on a track or two...bloated entourage on a tiny stage.... there is no way on earth the band made money that night, George was clearly bankrolling the tour for the fun of it, looking to give his crew a leg up and an experience to remember.... Once you're a multimillionaire musician you'd think you might want to just give a little back to fans once in a while.... Kind of shocking how rarely if ever it happens.
 
ska invita said:
It's popular music, pop music ,that lots of people seem to like .... It's just another band.... everyone needs to calm down, if I started writing essays about every band I thought was a bit crap id spend the rest of my life doing it.
Their biggest crime is being popular otherwise everyone would ignore them. They're not an enemy of beauty they're just another band.
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Clickbait hate = ££££
 
ska invita said:
One of the best gigs I've ever seen was George Clintons Parliament at Jazz Cafe - 2011 - I remember the year as I bought a tshirt! ...capacity about 200.... tickets about £20.... the band and entourage numbering about 25....three different drummers that night.... loads of extended family of Georges coming on to sing on a track or two...bloated entourage on a tiny stage.... there is no way on earth the band made money that night, George was clearly bankrolling the tour for the fun of it, looking to give his crew a leg up and an experience to remember.... Once you're a multimillionaire musician you'd think you might want to just give a little back to fans once in a while.... Kind of shocking how rarely if ever it happens.
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Funny you should mention Jazz Cafe because I went to see Gil Scott-Heron there once and we were moaning that it cost over £20 at the time. :D I think he was just playing a couple of one-off nights there, no full tour or anything so they'd had to fly him over and whatnot.

But yeah, imagine moaning about a gig ticket costing twenty quid. :D
 
Nanker Phelge said:
I love that Jerry Dammers made sure The Specials tours were affordable to kids. £3 was two weeks pocket money for me. How many weeks pocket money is a Taylor Swift gig for a kid these days?
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Here in Spain it´s a big thing to give your kid (aged around 11) a First Communion treat. This will often include things like taking them to Disneyland Paris. Recently, someone told me that some well-off people they know are taking their daughter to see Taylor Swift in Rome, including seating in an exclusive box at the gig, and the whole trip, in all, will cost 5000 euros.
 
isvicthere? said:
Here in Spain it´s a big thing to give your kid (aged around 11) a First Communion treat. This will often include things like taking them to Disneyland Paris. Recently, someone told me that some well-off people they know are taking their daughter to see Taylor Swift in Rome, including seating in an exclusive box at the gig, and the whole trip, in all, will cost 5000 euros.
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Gosh.
 
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