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Yu_Gi_Oh
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I think there's going to end up being two worlds: one where the virus been eradicated or suppressed to incredibly low levels, and that where it hasn't, and I don't think those two worlds will mix. I hope I'm just catastrophising.
Or you have to spend a couple of weeks in quarantine if you want to travel from one to the other?
Yu_Gi_Oh
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Yeah, I agree. But if too many people entering your quarantine arrive with the virus, you then have to treat them. I don't see this being an attractive prospect for many nations. For sure, if they're your returning citizens, you'll suck it up, but if they're not? How many countries currently have proper centralized quarantine? Hong Kong, China, South Korea, New Zealand? I'm not sure which others. The only country I know of that's allowing non-citizens in to do this quarantine is SK. Are there others?
Yu_Gi_Oh
天天好心情
And can you come in if you're not a citizen?
I think so, but then there can’t be many visitors at the best of times.
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Edit - from the government site:
On 8 April, the Government announced steps towards a gradual and careful reopening of normal activities in the Faroe Islands. With regard to travel to and from the Faroe Islands, the advice remains the same. All Faroese citizens and residents with a permanent address in the Faroe Islands who are currently overseas on a short-term basis are advised to return to the Faroe Islands as soon as possible. All other non-essential travel should continue to be avoided. In addition, the authorities strongly advise anyone arriving in the Faroe Islands from overseas, regardless of nationality, to go directly into home quarantine for 14 days.
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Edit - from the government site:
On 8 April, the Government announced steps towards a gradual and careful reopening of normal activities in the Faroe Islands. With regard to travel to and from the Faroe Islands, the advice remains the same. All Faroese citizens and residents with a permanent address in the Faroe Islands who are currently overseas on a short-term basis are advised to return to the Faroe Islands as soon as possible. All other non-essential travel should continue to be avoided. In addition, the authorities strongly advise anyone arriving in the Faroe Islands from overseas, regardless of nationality, to go directly into home quarantine for 14 days.
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spring-peeper
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GOP lawmakers introduce bill to allow Americans to sue China over coronavirus
Two Republican lawmakers in the House and Senate, respectively, have introduced legislation that would allow Americans to sue the Chinese government for damages caused by the coronavirus pandemic -- which U.S. officials have blamed on the Chinese.
weltweit
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Yes, for me it was always a question of who would do this first, individuals or a state .. I am not surprised the calls for compensation have occurred first in the USA.GOP lawmakers introduce bill to allow Americans to sue China over coronavirus
Two Republican lawmakers in the House and Senate, respectively, have introduced legislation that would allow Americans to sue the Chinese government for damages caused by the coronavirus pandemic -- which U.S. officials have blamed on the Chinese.www.foxnews.com
weltweit
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Wondering which sectors will emerge least or most damaged from this crisis I do expect travel to lag other areas in getting to a significant recovery if indeed travel does recover significantly. At the moment so few countries are not hotspots whose travelers could be accepted as arrivals in other countries.
SheilaNaGig
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GOP lawmakers introduce bill to allow Americans to sue China over coronavirus
Two Republican lawmakers in the House and Senate, respectively, have introduced legislation that would allow Americans to sue the Chinese government for damages caused by the coronavirus pandemic -- which U.S. officials have blamed on the Chinese.
Does this mean that Africa can sue America for HIV?
weltweit
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Nothing to stop them trying.
weltweit
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EU, Georgia Orthodox Christians are continuing ceremonies including giving blessings using a shared spoon.
Coronavirus is so small 300 million can fit on the head of a pin, how many then can fit on a shared spoon?
I think their parishioners are going to have cause to regret this!
Coronavirus is so small 300 million can fit on the head of a pin, how many then can fit on a shared spoon?
I think their parishioners are going to have cause to regret this!
Online businesses will no doubt boom as they no doubt are now as delivery drivers have been classified as key workers so - no interruption of service.
The company I contract deliver for are making an absolute fortune right now.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Yes, though I can really only specifically speak for drivers.
If you want to attempt to make an impact regarding drivers then you need to criticise them for pushing massive routes onto drivers - over 200 parcels per route and keeping routes at 9hrs - they did for only one day drop them to 8hrs (for 9hrs pay). At the very least Amazon should be reducing the time of their routes to reduce exposure to drivers from this virus as their current ‘9hr’ routes are more like 10hrs.
To do these routes within 9hrs requires an inhuman pace of work that can create mistakes that could result in drivers exposing themselves and customers to potential contamination.
SheilaNaGig
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Yeah... I read Yu_Gi_Oh ’s post and had to go out into the garden and look at the tree to counteract the way I think made me feel (sending love to those who can’t go and look at a tree anytime they want to).
I don’t know enough sci-fi literature to do this, but I’d be interested to see a thread dedicated to books /plots etc that are being replicated by this situation.
Yes - all liability is put upon drivers - constant threat of immediate sacking (Amazon call this ‘off boarding’) if driver is found to have broken the 2 metre distancing between them and customer (they claim to randomly call customers to check this).
Whilst this 2 metre advice is obvious necessary safeguarding for both driver and customer - Amazon negate the thought that their routes are far too heavy (exploitative) which require drivers to work at a break neck speed where mistakes can easily be made at working at such a pace. Many drivers work 9-10hrs flat out, no break (how many people work like this?).
Amazon generate drivers routes and are the core route of these problems.
SheilaNaGig
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Haiti is really struggling.
Jamaica stats and protocols on a wiki page here
en.m.wikipedia.org
Because this hit in the winter, a fair few British Jamaican were over there when the lockdown happened. According to family members I've spoken with who are here, things are “okay for now” over there but they’re bracing themselves.
We are not prepared at all': Haiti, already impoverished, confronts a pandemic
Haiti has barely 60 ventilators for 11 million people, and a limited number of doctors who can operate them.
www.bbc.co.uk
Jamaica stats and protocols on a wiki page here
COVID-19 pandemic in Jamaica - Wikipedia
Because this hit in the winter, a fair few British Jamaican were over there when the lockdown happened. According to family members I've spoken with who are here, things are “okay for now” over there but they’re bracing themselves.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
This is the worldwide c-19 discussion thread, can we keep posts about UK Amazon drivers off it, please?
SheilaNaGig
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Puerto Rico, abandoned by Trump after the hurricanes and earthquakes, is going to get battered to fuck by the virus.
en.m.wikipedia.org
www.clickondetroit.com
For every bit of Faroese-ish good news, there’s this horror show going on elsewhere.
COVID-19 pandemic in Puerto Rico - Wikipedia
Puerto Rico under scrutiny as youngest COVID-19 patient dies
Puerto Ricans are becoming increasingly disgruntled with how the government is handling the COVID-19 crisis as details emerge, including the death a 29-year-old man who became the U.S. territory’s youngest victim after his father said he wasn’t tested the first two times he sought help at an...
For every bit of Faroese-ish good news, there’s this horror show going on elsewhere.
MrCurry
right after this urgent rest
Has this one been posted yet? Researchers modelled the spread of droplets from a cough in a supermarket-type environment with high shelving creating corridors and a ventilation system to move the air around. Note how many mins it takes for the cloud to disperse (6 mins) and the colour variation showing the height above ground level of the droplets. They rise up and over the shelving displays and drop down into the adjacent aisles...
And this was a simple cough, not even a sneeze!
And this was a simple cough, not even a sneeze!
weltweit
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I can't see the linked media, but yes droplet spread is a concern. The last time I was in the supermarket probably 95% of the people in there, me included, were not wearing masks.
weltweit
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Two interesting editorials from the Lancet:
Sustaining containment of COVID-19 in China
from 18/04/2020 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30864-3/fulltext
and
COVID-19 in the USA: a question of time
from 18/04/2020 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30863-1/fulltext
Sustaining containment of COVID-19 in China
from 18/04/2020 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30864-3/fulltext
and
COVID-19 in the USA: a question of time
from 18/04/2020 https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30863-1/fulltext
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misfungled
Passed 2,000 confirmed deaths in Turkey now. Coming to the end of the second weekend curfew. This time, we were prepared and had lots of nice food (and beer). The best thing about the weekend curfew is that there is almost no traffic (police cars, army trucks, bread van and rubbish collection aside) and it's so peaceful. I can hear all the different birds. I even bought bird seed and saw loads of birds in the garden today.
Also, I've met neighbours I've never met before - the old lady upstairs has taken to coming down for a cigarette in the early evening. Over 65s aren't allowed out at all - it's been a month and she lives alone.
Also, I've met neighbours I've never met before - the old lady upstairs has taken to coming down for a cigarette in the early evening. Over 65s aren't allowed out at all - it's been a month and she lives alone.
