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They go home end of semester and come back as late as possible though (because of spring festival). There are a lot of things that go around with essentially the exact same symptoms (or at least with enough overlap). By that measure I've had it 4 years ago and 2 years ago (while I was in China :hmm: ).

I still wish she could get an antibodies test. The timing, symptoms and circumstances all add up.
 
Hi HAL9000 yes this graph is great. editor did actually already post it (earlier in this thread) but no matter. I don't know why the TV News stations haven't started using it because it is so clear to indicate where success lies and conversely where success is yet to be achieved.
 
Trump has extended the US national level of restrictions beyond the initial 15 day period they originally sold them as being for, and they are now in place till the end of April.

He was chucking around a few different numbers and dates, but one involved the idea that the US would be at the peak of their death rate in 2 weeks, easter weekend.
 
Sorted by most recent daily deaths, UK is climbing the table now in 4th place ..

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Need to be a bit careful with those. The figure for Germany, for instance, isn't the final one - Germany is updating several times a day. The UK is updating - well I don't know when, erratically, it appears.

Also, sorry to be boring and carry on about this, but deaths per million population is a more meaningful figure. By that measure the Netherlands, Swiss and Belgian figures are higher.
 
First death reported on Lesvos, a 76 year old with existing health conditions. Her daughter, a nurse working at two health centres on the island, has symptoms and is waiting for the results of tests. This suggests that Covid-19 is spreading on the island and is likely to affect the Moria camp.
 
The UK is updating - well I don't know when, erratically, it appears.

After the changing of the system, it looks like they are back to 2pm for the daily info release including deaths. They might even manage to stick to this schedule from now on, since they have increased the amount of hours they have between the end of the death reporting period and actually reporting the number to the public.
 
Swiss new cases have flattened off over the last week. They may be at, or very near, or even just past peak. And daily deaths may be flattening off as well now. tbh I'd rather have Switzerland's numbers right now than the UK's.
Bit delayed but if you can remember where you read that i'd be really grateful.

ETA i've found a really good data site here and its true, look like effects of the lockdown there are showing as a slowing of new cases:
 
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You probably know my feeling on that sort of thing from previous questions about Chinas numbers, Irans numbers etc. There are countries more likely to mess with their numbers,
Poland might well be in that list.
Manipulative government also on an election footing
Polish relative says they're not trusting official figures
 
I find it somewhat disturbing that the further away from China the virus travels the less prepared the countries seem to be and the larger their expected death toll is predicted. So we have it moving early to Italy with nasty results and now expanding in the USA with even higher predicted fatalities.

And yet there is this example South Korea which was infected early, has followed test test and quarantine and has not had a lockdown yet they appear to be the only country in the developed world that has followed this strategy, despite it apparently seems to be the least destructive strategy that is actually working, leaving China aside for the moment.

So in the UK we have a lockdown, have largely given up on test and trace, didn't anyhow develop the testing resources to be able to do it, and are now stating 20,000 fatalities would be a good result. And the USA where the infections now seem out of control and the expected fatalities it seems will dwarf the ROW results in part because of zero preparations.

And around the world there are the same issues, shortages of PPE for medical and care staff, shortages of ventilators, misguided political leaders, shortages of testing resources, confusing lockdown instructions and the virus running riot though unprepared and defenceless populations.

One might have thought that countries with later infections, the UK, the USA etc, might have used their delay to prepare more thoroughly, to be ready for the fight, to have resources available and to have managed to have kept the worst of this outbreak at bay. Might have thought, but it isn't that way in practice.

Well hopefully it will be a very steep learning curve for western countries who thought we would never have to deal with this in our lifetimes. Because for all the "unprecedented" and "once in a generation" if you think about it it's not unprecedented, we have seen it before (just not so much in this country) and there already are tried and tested ways of successfully dealing with it. Maybe now governments will realise that having resources to properly deal with novel viruses aren't a waste of money, the risk is very real and so are the benefits.
 
smmudge UK did a simulation of a virus attack back in 2016 and the simulation told them, amongst other things that we didn't have enough ventilators. If lessons were learnt, they weren't acted on.
So, this simulation was Exercise Cygnus in October 2016.

The exercise showed that the pandemic would cause the country's health system to collapse from a lack of resources,[2][3] with the Chief Medical Officer at the time stating that a lack of medical ventilators was a serious problem.[4]
from: Exercise Cygnus - Wikipedia

More information here: https://www.england.nhs.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/board-paper-300317-item-10.pdf
 
An animal rights activist explains the connection between the virus and how it relates to our treatment of animals/factory farming

 
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I have always been skeptical about the low numbers of asymptomatic cases reported and the insistence by some authorities that they are a negligible factor. Havent had many excuses to talk about it in the last month, but now:


More than 43,000 people in China had tested positive for Covid-19 by the end of February but had no immediate symptoms, a condition typically known as asymptomatic, according to the data. They were placed in quarantine and monitored but were not included in the official tally of confirmed cases, which stood at about 80,000 at the time.

A growing number of studies are now questioning the WHO’s earlier statement that asymptomatic transmission was “extremely rare”. A report by the WHO’s international mission after a trip to China estimated that asymptomatic infections accounted for 1 to 3 per cent of cases, according to a European Union paper.

Based on their research, Nishiura put the proportion of asymptomatic Japanese patients evacuated from Wuhan, ground zero of the outbreak in China, at 30.8 per cent – similar to the classified Chinese government data.

But official figures from South Korea – which had carried out nearly 300,000 tests on all close contacts of its confirmed cases as of Wednesday – are the most comparable to China’s. More than 20 per cent of the asymptomatic cases reported to the Korea Centres for Disease Control and Prevention remained without symptoms until they were discharged from hospital.

“Korea currently has a significantly higher rate of asymptomatic cases than other countries, perhaps due to our extensive testing,” Jeong Eun-kyeong, director of South Korea’s CDC, told a press briefing on March 16.
 
FFS, can people STOP posting random Youtube videos and pictures without comment as to why they are useful and relevant to the topic at hand which is 'Worldwide breaking news, discussion, stats, updates'.

Fuck off to Facebook if you just want to do that shit.
 
I have always been skeptical about the low numbers of asymptomatic cases reported and the insistence by some authorities that they are a negligible factor. Havent had many excuses to talk about it in the last month, but now:



So this chimes with the reports we're hearing from emergency rooms that whatever else people are being scanned for, every single person is showing some degree of covid in the lungs, with no reported symptoms.
 
FFS, can people STOP posting random Youtube videos and pictures without comment as to why they are useful and relevant to the topic at hand which is 'Worldwide breaking news, discussion, stats, updates'.

Fuck off to Facebook if you just want to do that shit.
There is a thumbnail with text on it.
 
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