Coronavirus in the UK - news, lockdown and discussion

[The39thStep]

Scarfolk Council issuing new advice re potential Xmas shortages

 

[xenon]

If this strain is more dangerous (which I think we'll know more about in the next 2 weeks) things are going to get very bad very quickly.

On the hopeful, well less shit side, if it has indeed been in the wild since at least Sep, I think we would have had more evidence by now, were it more leathful.

 

[The39thStep]

Looming langoustine shortage in France obviously had an impact

 

[2hats]

Drosten seems to think it might not be so bad though?

This also from this morning's R4 Today programme virologist Wendy Barclay and epidemiologist Neil Ferguson (listen from 1h35m23s-1h45m50s in):

Today - 21/12/2020 - BBC Sounds

News and current affairs, including Sports Desk, Weather and Thought for the Day.

www.bbc.co.uk

Explains the analysis connecting the genetic data to the epidemiology and geographical presentation. "There is a very strong correlation between the areas showing fastest growth in cases and this new variant [...] high resolution PCR confirms this."

Also, underlines the timeline involved: that it was brought to the attention of NERVTAG by PHE around 10 Dec when there was sufficient evidence to be assured that we should be concerned about this.

Furthermore that there is a "hint" in the data that this variant may infect schoolchildren slightly more effectively than the previous dominant variant (one shouldn't be entirely surprised about this: consider what routes of transmission have been narrowed down for the virus, then think selection effect, cf SA 501.V2). Highlights that we are running out of mitigations in the 'R budget' and additional new steps may have to be considered over the coming weeks.

 

[Sunray]

This also from this morning's R4 Today programme virologist Wendy Barclay and epidemiologist Neil Ferguson (listen from 1h35m23s-1h45m50s in):

Today - 21/12/2020 - BBC Sounds

News and current affairs, including Sports Desk, Weather and Thought for the Day.

www.bbc.co.uk

Explains the analysis connecting the genetic data to the epidemiology and geographical presentation. "There is a very strong correlation between the areas showing fastest growth in cases and this new variant [...] high resolution PCR confirms this."

Also, underlines the timeline involved: that it was brought to the attention of NERVTAG by PHE around 10 Dec when there was sufficient evidence to be assured that we should be concerned about this.

Furthermore that there is a "hint" in the data that this variant may infect schoolchildren slightly more effectively than the previous dominant variant (one shouldn't be entirely surprised about this: consider what routes of transmission have been narrowed down for the virus, then think selection effect, cf SA 501.V2). Highlights that we are running out of mitigations in the 'R budget' and additional new steps may have to be considered over the coming weeks.

There isn't anywhere left to go but UK wide lockdown. Which is what we should have continued doing anyway,

 

[cupid_stunt]

There isn't anywhere left to go but UK wide lockdown. Which is what we should have continued doing anyway,

I agree, even the original tier 1 areas are seeing massive increases, Cornwall up 190% in 7 days, Isle of Wight up 300%.

 

[keybored]

But what will happen if supermarkets start to run out of fresh food, people will panic and strip the shelves bare like last time. This took weeks to recover from. I see it happening again.

Did you choose your username ironically or something?

 

[Ax^]

So this is just a dry run for Brexit

 

[Sunray]

OMG Matt Hancock should be in prison not Health Secretary.

Good commentry on one of the worst interviews I've watched, he's trying to defend the indefensible and comes across as dumb as fuck.


All of these problems lie fully at the feet of the Government, they should step aside to let someone who's got balls, knows how to lead and be decisive take over.
If they had pursued a zero COVID strategy at the start, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Total disaster.

 

[chilango]

Just received a glossy booklet through the post from Reading Borough Council providing details of how to stay safe during the relaxation of rules over Christmas

I hope that this doesn't cause confusion.

 

[elbows]

Furthermore that there is a "hint" in the data that this variant may infect schoolchildren slightly more effectively than the previous dominant variant (one shouldn't be entirely surprised about this: consider what routes of transmission have been narrowed down for the virus, then think selection effect, cf SA 501.V2). Highlights that we are running out of mitigations in the 'R budget' and additional new steps may have to be considered over the coming weeks.

At this rate they should call the new variant the u-strain. As in 'u-strain if you want to, the Johnsons up for turning'.

Read the pre-print soon, tory priority induced selection pressures led to a set of mutations that target areas of weak policy.

On a related note, I see that the NERVTAG minutes mention that they are checking to see if the new strain has an impact on the ability of lateral flow tests to detect the virus. If it makes those tests even less reliable than they already are then I'd say this strain has effectively demolished the Johnson approach.

 

[cupid_stunt]

BBC News just announced that Johnson is holding another press conference this afternoon, no time given.

 

[Espresso]

I just heard that on the news and my heart sank. What more shite can he dole out today, I wonder.

 

[Lord Camomile]

BBC News just announced that Johnson is holding another press conference this afternoon, no time given.

They're learning...

 

[Lord Camomile]

I just heard that on the news and my heart sank. What more shite can he dole out today, I wonder.

Off the top of my head, it might be about Dover and supply delays?

 

[cupid_stunt]

I just heard that on the news and my heart sank. What more shite can he dole out today, I wonder.

I do wonder if more areas will be going up into higher tiers.

 

[Spandex]

BBC News just announced that Johnson is holding another press conference this afternoon, no time given.

I think Johnson's only option is to use the press conference to commit Seppuku live in front of the nation.

 

[Ax^]

I just heard that on the news and my heart sank. What more shite can he dole out today, I wonder.

extending the transition period because of this shit show

could be fun

postive note for people not to see each other at christmas

to avoid the rows

 

[planetgeli]

I think Johnson's only option is the use the press conference to commit Seppuku live in front of the nation.

I'd watch that.

 

[Lord Camomile]

I think Johnson's only option is the use the press conference to commit Seppuku live in front of the nation.

Or, at the very least, fuck a pig.

 

[wemakeyousoundb]

extending the transition period because of this shit show

could be fun

postive note for people not to see each other at christmas

to avoid the rows

13:03 - Ministers say no extension so it would be a very quick u-turn

 

[Artaxerxes]

Or, at the very least, fuck a pig.

Onanism is a sin.

 

[killer b]

Recommend finishing your christmas gift shopping pre-press conference, if that's possible. Just to be on the safe side.

 

[Artaxerxes]

13:03 - Ministers say no extension so it would be a very quick u-turn

Which minister? Its not like they've not contradicted each other within 5 minutes before.

 

[platinumsage]

Recommend finishing your christmas gift shopping pre-press conference, if that's possible. Just to be on the safe side.

I don't think they'll lock people in shops.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I do wonder if more areas will be going up into higher tiers.

BBC South East saying just that for parts of Sussex.

 

[Sprocket.]

I think Johnson's only option is to use the press conference to commit Seppuku live in front of the nation.

He would miss, while spouting some irrelevant historical quote.

 

[Espresso]

He would miss, while spouting some irrelevant historical quote.

Alas

 

[Pickman's model]

He would miss, while spouting some irrelevant historical quote.

johnson's historical quotes are his equivalent to delboy's french phrases

 

[Pickman's model]

Onanism is a sin.

nothing to do with fucking a pig tho