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Teaboy said:
Yeah I hear the shelves are empty. I know anti-bacterial won't do anything but can you get anti-viral? Why would the government recommend something which is useless? Its not bothering about masks and stuff.
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60%+ ethanol hand wash will kill these viruses - they have a complex encapsuating membrane of lipids and proteins that is disrupted by strong ethanol solutions, inactivating them. Soap will do this too, possibly better in fact (and certainly less overall irritatingly to your skin). They are relatively fragile viruses, as these things go.

Not useless (though I do believe soap and water is better as I say).
 
I suppose it's unrealistic to expect that anyone from this administration could effectively offer any coherent sense or reassurance about the spread of the virus. That said, they do seem to be emitting consistently worry-ramping gobbets atm....

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Overwhelmingly the UK cases are "explainable", which is a good thing shirt term. Normally this shit would terrify me enough to avoid the news but seeing as I hear all sorts of wild rumours from my students I feel it's best to keep up with the situation.
 
S☼I said:
Overwhelmingly the UK cases are "explainable", which is a good thing shirt term. Normally this shit would terrify me enough to avoid the news but seeing as I hear all sorts of wild rumours from my students I feel it's best to keep up with the situation.
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Without wanting to shit you up :D - as elbows has been patiently explaining for several weeks, you're not going to find evidence of something you're not looking/testing for.

Iiirc correctly, the couple of cases where they haven't travelled overseas, were only caught down to them trialling testing of people presenting with respiratory problems in 100 GP surgeries across the country, but I think that is the extent of the testing being done on anyone outside of those returning from the (increasing number of) countries which have seen more dramatic spreads, who are also exhibiting symptoms (or close contacts of those same people).

So it's not particularly meaningful that the huge proportion of people diagnosed here, so far, have caught it elsewhere.
 
brogdale said:
I suppose it's unrealistic to expect that anyone from this administration could effectively offer any coherent sense or reassurance about the spread of the virus. That said, they do seem to be emitting consistently worry-ramping gobbets atm....

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This seems to be the plan

What are the government’s steps?


Firstly, the government are trying to contain the virus, he said. This meant that “every single case found here gets immediate treatment”, with their contacts tracked down and given medical advice or checks.


Hancock said that the government were trying to delay the onset of the virus, having determined that the UK would be better able to cope with a mass spread of coronavirus in the summer.
 
sheothebudworths said:
Without wanting to shit you up :D - as elbows has been patiently explaining for several weeks, you're not going to find evidence of something you're not looking/testing for.

Iiirc correctly, the couple of cases where they haven't travelled overseas, were only caught down to them trialling testing of people presenting with respiratory problems in 100 GP surgeries across the country, but I think that is the extent of the testing being done on anyone outside of those returning from the (increasing number of) countries which have seen more dramatic spreads, who are also exhibiting symptoms (or close contacts of those same people).

So it's not particularly meaningful that the huge proportion of people diagnosed here, so far, have caught it elsewhere.
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Scotland is now doing sample testing of people displaying respiratory symptoms from 41 GP practices regardless of whether they have travel history or known contact that might trigger a test - patients who are showing symptoms such as coughs, fevers etc. Pneumonia patients in critical care units will also be automatically tested for the virus.
 
weepiper said:
Scotland is now doing sample testing of people displaying respiratory symptoms from 41 GP practices regardless of whether they have travel history or known contact that might trigger a test - patients who are showing symptoms such as coughs, fevers etc. Pneumonia patients in critical care units will also be automatically tested for the virus.
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My brother is doing the tests in dundee. And is quite annoyed because they're meant to be bacterial infections he works on but the viral people don't have the level 3 something something so they're doing it and having to do all the extra protocols while the viral people are getting off with it. Rumours are saying it someone in dundee. Maybe he'll find out tomorrow at work.
 
If they do start shutting down towns or cities Chinese style there'll be no state help with regards to wages/rent/mortgage payments/food at all will there. :(

When it first kicked off in China the state immediate told everyone that they'd be covering all medical and funeral expenses. Meanwhile we're planning mass graves apparently :rolleyes:
 
maomao said:
If they do start shutting down towns or cities Chinese style
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How does this work in reality? I'm due to move on 21st March to a new city. If they decided to quarantine Manchester or Leeds between now and then, am I just fucked? Can't move as no travel, yet can't stay as no house... 🤔
 
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