Printing something that will be unreadable to a significant portion of the middle aged to elderly is staggering.The instruction sheet. As mentioned, text is small, and you also have to read pages across in two rows, which isn’t immediately obvious. Wonder if someone was trying to save paper/money?
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Hmm. Public self-swabbing for a RT-PCR test, you say?test yourself
elbows or 2hats do you have (or know where I can find) a breakdown of the UK deaths (from hospitals obviously) in terms of age demographics?
TIA
I've just seen indications the peak for all deaths was April 8th but for under 60s was April 11th btw. Would lockdown explain the difference? Or what?
Again, thanks.
And... I saw first hand how marvellous the NHS is. The idea that it is in crisis is a despicable lie.
Hmm. Public self-swabbing for a RT-PCR test, you say?
* Ponders false negatives *
There is a tab on the daily NHS England spreadsheet that has the numbers per day of actual death in hospital, by age ranges.
Download the latest one with 'total announced deaths' in its title from this page:
Statistics » COVID-19 Daily Deaths
Health and high quality care for all, <br />now and for future generationswww.england.nhs.uk
ONS data that lags more but goes beyond hospitals is also available, a new version will be out tomorrow so I will mention it again then.
As for differences in peak timing, there are too many variables, and the differences, especially in the younger age groups, involve too small numbers which further decreases confidence. Plus there could be differences in how quickly different ages progress to serious illness and death. And I certainly wouldnt try to build any sort of case for anything based on a couple of days difference in peak deaths.
Thank you, that's really helpful. Don't suppose there's another for Wales? (If not, why not btw?)
Sunday Times
reporters were reportedly prevented from asking questions at the latest briefing after the newspaper claimed 10 Downing Street “sleepwalked” into the coronavirus epidemic, and revealing how Boris Johnson failed to attend five COBRA meetings in the lead up to the outbreak.
The Observer’s political editor Toby Helm wrote: “I am told Downing Street also barred Sunday Times from asking questions at its briefing because they dared to criticise government’s response to coronavirus. Surely not so in an advanced democracy.”
He also reported accusations that the government would prevent journalists who criticised the move from asking questions.
Twitter users were shocked, with one posting: “Typical cunning Cummings tactics. This guys is single handedly killing British democracy. That why he is on SAGE as well. To prevent sensible advise ever arriving in No 10.”
Why has north Wales only just announced a month's worth of deaths in one go? Seems bizarre. This now leaves Hywel Dda (my board) and Powys as the outliers with apparently only 14 deaths between them. Or are they suddenly going to announce chunks of deaths in the coming days?
These figures throw up a new sick joke almost every day.
This is why he really needed to die."How could I be fucking the NHS? It saved my life!"
Bluster, lie, bluster, lie, bluster, lie.
While I've no interest in the Prince Hal redemption arc the press has written for Johnson (minus any admission of fault, naturally), there was some very interesting language in that speech: continuing to "suppress" the virus, keeping its R rate below one, and cautioning against losing control and allowing a second peak. The opposite of merely slowing the spread to keep the NHS within capacity and generate "herd immunity".Well, he seems to be saying the right things, let's hope his actions match those words.
Maybe as he was so ill, it has made a difference on what would have happened otherwise.
He's been shown a video of Angela Merkel.While I've no interest in the Prince Hal redemption arc the press has written for Johnson (minus any admission of fault, naturally), there was some very interesting language in that speech: continuing to "suppress" the virus, keeping its R rate below one, and cautioning against losing control and allowing a second peak. The opposite of merely slowing the spread to keep the NHS within capacity and generate "herd immunity".
None of which says anything about their ability to make it work, of course, but at least the stated intent has changed.
Exactly what I was thinking!He's been shown a video of Angela Merkel.
(not even joking - bet that's what's happened)
Here we go with an explanation:
Coronavirus: Virus deaths error blamed on system 'glitch'
One health board "decided not to use" a reporting system set up for the Welsh NHS.www.bbc.co.uk
"When the epidemic first started earlier this year, Public Health Wales put in place a new electronic reporting system for health boards to use.
"That was to pull together the numbers so that we had an accurate figure.
"Betsi Cadwaladr decided not to use that system and used a different system.
Pushed on why it was not noticed until last week, he added: "The epidemic was moving east to west and south to north, we did expect to see a small number of deaths and cases up in the north.
"It's just that the trend was bigger than expected and that's what triggered the question as to whether reporting was being accurately done which has lead to this review."
Well...an interesting choice for the first public question!
...and can be difficult to answer says Hancock - really!! Have not watched a briefing for a few days...they are still so poor. Backslapping about building a bunch of hospitals that we appear not to need yet but still no idea of any plan, testing nowhere near the target and trace & track still at the idea stage...just let's hope the select committees get on top of this.FFS.
"Can we hug our grandchildren?"
"Depends."
Jesus wept.
Anything about world travel and quarantine and testing at entry yet? What with that being the way the thing spreads round the world.
While border security may be a reserved power, nothing to stop Scotland mandating 14 days quarantine right now under devolved health powers. Nor, for that matter, setting up a compulsory testing station immediately after customs.
There is a middle way here as well, between doing nothing and doing a Korea, which is to have mandatory testing, with as fast a turnaround as possible and of course quarantine until the results come back, and to allow people in if they come back negative. That may not be enough if you're aiming right now for total elimination, but it's enough to make a difference with suppression, R0 and reseeding the population.While border security may be a reserved power, nothing to stop Scotland mandating 14 days quarantine right now under devolved health powers. Nor, for that matter, setting up a compulsory testing station immediately after customs.
But ask Berwick if they wish to be liberated first.
Testing alone would be better than nothing, but as tests are imperfect, would also add on the quarantine period as a safety net.There is a middle way here as well, between doing nothing and doing a Korea, which is to have mandatory testing, with as fast a turnaround as possible and of course quarantine until the results come back, and to allow people in if they come back negative. That may not be enough if you're aiming right now for total elimination, but it's enough to make a difference with suppression, R0 and reseeding the population.