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That is indeed totally unacceptable. (It seems incredible that still within living memory are times when it was considered safe for children to play on the road in many urban residential streets.)
I've actually seen some kids playing on the street during this time. Also a lot of people sitting out on their doorsteps or front gardens. I hope the experience might provide some momentum for support for street calming measures post crisis. I'm going off topic though.
 
Johnson says that is why people might be tempted to ease up now.

But now is not the moment, he says.

He says he understands the worries of shopkeepers, entrepreneurs, and everyone in business.

He knows why they think that, without an economy, there will be no way of funding the NHS.

He says he shares their urgency.

"Yet we must also recognise the risk of a second spike ... and letting the reproduction rate go back over 1."
That would risk a “disaster”, he says.

He says that would cause lasting damage to the economy.

And so he refuses to throw that away, he says.

"I ask you to contain you impatience because I believe now we are coming to the end of the first phase of this conflict."

Johnson says the government should only ease up on the lockdown when it is confident there will be no second peak.

He says he wants “maximum transparency” about how the decisions to relax restrictions are taken.

He says he wants to involve the opposition parties as much as possible.

He says measures are in place to win “phase two”, just as the UK is winning phase one.

He says if the UK can show the same sense of optimism shown by Capt Tom Moore, we will come through this.

And that’s it. He has finished.

 
Well, he seems to be saying the right things, let's hope his actions match those words.

Maybe as he was so ill, it has made a difference on what would have happened otherwise.
 
Saying all the right things? Worries about the economy and nothing else by the sounds of it. He's saying all the things I would expect him to say, not necessarily all the right things.

As for words like 'conflict' and 'winning', a) this isn't a war and b) tell that to the thousands who've lost loved ones in the past month. Predictable and shite to invoke the spirit of Capt Tom Moore. He's still stuck on the 'stay in, save lives', with not much else to say. No hint of contrition over his myriad mistakes.
 
This is not good news...

An urgent alert issued to doctors has raised concerns that a serious coronavirus-related syndrome may be emerging in children in the UK.

The alert states that in the past three weeks there has been a rise in children being hospitalised with a syndrome that has the characteristics of serious Covid-19, according to the Health Service Journal. Children have so far been deemed to be at low risk of serious ill health from the virus.
The alert states:

“[In the] last three weeks, there has been an apparent rise in the number of children of all ages presenting with a multisystem inflammatory state requiring intensive care across London and also in other regions of the UK.

“There is a growing concern that a [covid-19] related inflammatory syndrome is emerging in children in the UK, or that there may be another, as yet unidentified, infectious pathogen associated with these cases.”

There is little information about how widespread the condition is but the number of children affected is likely to be small, the HSJ reported. Some of the children have tested positive for covid-19, and some appear to have previously had the virus, it added.

The alert, first issued to GPs in north London, also describes the cases as showing features of toxic shock syndrome and Kawasaki disease, which causes blood vessels to become inflamed. It advised doctors to “refer children presenting with these symptoms as a matter of urgency.”

 
I noticed a few planes coming over yesterday. Nowhere near 'normal' levels but the first time I've seen several in the course of the day for a few weeks.
this was about ten in the space of half an hour - of course not near the usual density but it felt like it for the first time since this started
 
Wonder if Johnson encountered anyone dying around him while he was in ICU? Quite possible given the circumstances, although they might have sheltered him from it. It is the sort of thing that can change your perspective and fuck up your head a bit.
 
Definitely not! :(
But you would think something similar might have been identified by now in other countries as well, wouldn't you? :confused:
Maybe it has ....

Im wondering what the difference between a rise and “an apparent rise” is. Looking at the article they say “the absolute number of children affected is thought to be very small”, so perhaps it could even be a statistical anomaly due to the COVID-related changes in healthcare and reporting.
 
Boris Johnson starts by saying he is sorry to have been away from his desk for longer than he wanted.

He thanks Dominic Raab for stepping up.

But he wants to thank the public, he says.

He says this is the biggest challenge the country has faced since the war.

Biggest challenge the country has faced since the war seems to happen on a pretty regular basis.
 
Saying all the right things? Worries about the economy and nothing else by the sounds of it. He's saying all the things I would expect him to say, not necessarily all the right things.

As for words like 'conflict' and 'winning', a) this isn't a war and b) tell that to the thousands who've lost loved ones in the past month. Predictable and shite to invoke the spirit of Capt Tom Moore. He's still stuck on the 'stay in, save lives', with not much else to say. No hint of contrition over his myriad mistakes.

Certainly feels like a war of attrition to me.
 
Assuming you're in London and noticed more planes arriving yesterday this is because they were using the approach from the east which hasn't often been the case in recent weeks rather than an increase in their number.

Apparently of 11 passenger flights from New York yesterday, only one actually had passengers on, the others just freight with some carrying additional freight in the passenger compartment.
 
Assuming you're in London and noticed more planes arriving yesterday this is because they were using the approach from the east which hasn't often been the case in recent weeks rather than an increase in their number.
I wondered about that. Have they been using the approach from the west in recent weeks due to wind direction or is it related to the reduced traffic?
 
"I ask you to contain you impatience because I believe now we are coming to the end of the first phase of this conflict."

"Now this is not the end (of my term of office). It is not even the beginning of the end (of my term of office). But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning (of my term of office).

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I wondered about that. Have they been using the approach from the west in recent weeks due to wind direction or is it related to the reduced traffic?
It will be wind direction. They try to land and take off into the wind. We've had an easterly right through this hot spell, which is not the prevailing wind, so it's not a surprise that it's felt different. Weather changed last night.
 
not really meaning on a personal level, but whether it would influence policy, emphasise this is real and has consequences.
Maybe. I have experience of being very ill in hospital and people dying around me - dying right next to me, in fact. My experience of that was that I was so ill that I had pretty much no brain space to think about anything other than myself. Reflect on it later, yes, but as it's happening, it's mostly a case of 'Nurse! Me please.' Johnson doesn't strike me as the reflective type, but maybe.

Problem is, if this has caused him to reflect for the first time in his life, I wouldn't trust his reflection to come up with good things. After all, what was the first thing he did when he came out of hospital? Move to his second home, that's what. This is not someone who shows any signs of self-awareness about his privilege.
 
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This has just been posted on Big Up The NHS FB page, the page is constantly monitored and this has been confirmed as real, other medics have contributed before comments turned off, it is so worrying ands possibly a new direction for the outbreak.


update now on HSJ, only small numbers thank god
 
not really meaning on a personal level, but whether it would influence policy, emphasise this is real and has consequences.
if he wasn't sick there would have been zero difference in the way the government has handled the pandemic over the past weeks, if anything I fear it's straight back to even worse austerity as soon as the lockdown is lifted
 
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