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...but I thought he was sooo effective at putting Tories on the backfoot? If so then why are they moaning?
Corbyn & Cabinet in the Media
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...but I thought he was sooo effective at putting Tories on the backfoot? If so then why are they moaning?
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
This is getting a little absurd. Independent running with "Shadow ministers dismayed as Jeremy Corbyn's reshuffle claims first scalp."
I don't remember shadow reshuffles getting this much attention before, and I certainly don't remember the entire press corp getting out the violins for the losers. It's usually just one of those sideshows in the politics game, only of interest to political geeks. Suddenly it seems there's more at stake...
I don't remember shadow reshuffles getting this much attention before, and I certainly don't remember the entire press corp getting out the violins for the losers. It's usually just one of those sideshows in the politics game, only of interest to political geeks. Suddenly it seems there's more at stake...
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
its cos they want the 'stalinist purge creates new politburo loyal only to cmrd corbyn' angle
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Yep. As if normal people are currently running around going 'OMG they've changed the Shadow Culture Secretary!'
It's all everyone is talking about in my office I can tell you.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
You can't argue it's not a story. Serial dissenter rumoured to be about to cull dissenters after important vote.
Sure it won't matter a thing in 4 years if Corbyn (or successor) leads a coherent left leaning party, born from this necessary turmoil, into the election, but right now it's fascinating because Corbo seems genuinely torn between his impulses - on the one hand to respect MPs autonomy and allow for a broad church and on the other to respect the mandate of the members who have more robust inclinations. It can't go on and at some point he will become Corbo of the Iron Fist. He can't not. And he'll also have to surround himself with loyalists, so accommodate the likes of Emily Thornberry whose hysterical sacking he never agreed with.
The other fascinating thing is he still doesn't really appear to have worked out his relationship to the state. Does he want to be the effective head of the armed forces for example? Does he hate them so much he put Maria Eagle in post for the lols?
Sure it won't matter a thing in 4 years if Corbyn (or successor) leads a coherent left leaning party, born from this necessary turmoil, into the election, but right now it's fascinating because Corbo seems genuinely torn between his impulses - on the one hand to respect MPs autonomy and allow for a broad church and on the other to respect the mandate of the members who have more robust inclinations. It can't go on and at some point he will become Corbo of the Iron Fist. He can't not. And he'll also have to surround himself with loyalists, so accommodate the likes of Emily Thornberry whose hysterical sacking he never agreed with.
The other fascinating thing is he still doesn't really appear to have worked out his relationship to the state. Does he want to be the effective head of the armed forces for example? Does he hate them so much he put Maria Eagle in post for the lols?
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
He can't be the head of the armed forces. That's Lizzie's role.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
But that's a Westminster Village story, not a front page one. I doubt it would merit more than a few lines even on here, let along in the real world, if the journo crowd, aided and abetted by Blairite insiders, hadn't decided to turn it into some sort of Shakesperean tragedy.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
oh no! looks like killary's exit is back on the cards.
Mr Moose
What the hell are we supposed to tell the kids?
Hence the word 'effective'. It won't be Liz visiting the troops.
Nights of the blunt knives. Nandy offered and turned down defence. Nine ministers offered statements in support of Dugher. It's painful to hear about. He isn't going to able to find enough loyalists for a cabinet and genuine moderate left wingers are up in arms.
And the public appear to be buying none of it.
stethoscope
Well-Known Member
Lol.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
What?
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
The public don't give a shit.
About the Labour Party? Np, the public see it as irrelevant I agree.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
The most sensible thing you've ever said.
I wish the Labour Party was relevant to the public. It's not going to be any time soon given what's going on at the moment.
Yes, the party is falling apart under the leader that said he could unite it.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Like clearing away necrotic tissue to allow healthy tissue to form.
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
New status...IYCWIM
There certainly seems to be an inverse relationship between the amount of time people spend telling others how 'straight talking' they are and how slimy and careerist they actually are.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yep, 'spanky' Simon's been all over the media again saying how Rochdale needs his sort of 'ordinary' guy straight-talking.
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Jess Phillips is another one that does this. Actually, this gives me an idea for a 'Straight Talkers Watch' thread. I reckon it's a trend we will be seeing more of in the next few years.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Scum. Might be enough to warrant my first ever ignore?Not just that. He's also a BTL landlord.
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