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Thanks for those links, they're interesting. But I can't see where he says the core countries are looting the periphery during this "bail out" phase. instead it seems to be about the broad and ongoing benefits to Germany of the Euro system, i.e. "German banks and German exporters have benefited substantially from the euro, even though the performance of the domestic economy has been undistinguished. They are keen to preserve the basic structures of the monetary union, indeed wish to impose harsher fiscal discipline and more labour flexibility. These policies are perceived as protecting the geopolitical interests of Germany, and hence the German government can argue in all seriousness that there is nothing structurally wrong with the monetary union."

Sure, I was indulging in a bit of hyperbole with 'looting' but the process closely resembles the Latin American debt crisis, which when you consider the capital outflows post IMF intervention, seems to justify the word 'looting' ...
 
I stood off and watched the likes of butchersapron and that weird little bloke who spells things wrong.Tell you what I'll tell you something about my politics if you tell me something about yours. I joined the LPYS in the early 1980s and didn't last a year.

I joined the SWP in the early '80s and didn't last 9 months.

What both of you need to provide here is a little more detail. Did you leave (either by choice or expulsion) because of political differences, or did they throw you out because you were a right pain in the arse? Not saying that's what it was, just exploring the various possibilities...
 
What both of you need to provide here is a little more detail. Did you leave (either by choice or expulsion) because of political differences, or did they throw you out because you were a right pain in the arse? Not saying that's what it was, just exploring the various possibilities...

I left the SWP because it took me that long to realise that while they were long on class rhetoric, they were very short on class-based action. I kind of already suspected it, but thought maybe what I'd seen (the SWP backing away from supporting local anti-fascists in the late '70s when the NF were patrolling our estates and canvassing on them) was just a "little local difficulty".
 
I think the ball breaker will be the Germans, they are increasingly fed up with, as they see it, bailing the,lazy Southerners out.

I'm not convinced that the Germans are even starting to prepare themselves intellectually for a post-EU Europe, because they've forever got one eye cast eastward, waiting for the slumbering giant to awaken.
 
I'm not convinced that the Germans are even starting to prepare themselves intellectually for a post-EU Europe, because they've forever got one eye cast eastward, waiting for the slumbering giant to awaken.
Aye,but a core northern European grouping free of the southern peripheries would be a more sensible economic and defensive bloc, once Germany (and others)have squeezed the last drop from the PIGS I think a formula will be found to discard them.
 
Aye,but a core northern European grouping free of the southern peripheries would be a more sensible economic and defensive bloc, once Germany (and others)have squeezed the last drop from the PIGS I think a formula will be found to discard them.

Makes very poor strategic sense, though. Why fuck off nation-states who'd be in a position to cosy up to your eastern neighbour if you buttfuck them too hard? One thing you can't accuse the Bundesbank of is not thinking strategically.
 
What both of you need to provide here is a little more detail. Did you leave (either by choice or expulsion) because of political differences, or did they throw you out because you were a right pain in the arse? Not saying that's what it was, just exploring the various possibilities...

I realised I had issues with authority including authoritarian politics. I jumped before I was pushed but it wasn't that difficult as I had discovered a magazine called Black Flag.
 
I realised I had issues with authority including authoritarian politics. I jumped before I was pushed but it wasn't that difficult as I had discovered a magazine called Black Flag.

I seem to remember hanging out with LPYS (never actually joined...) brought out my latent "issues with authority" as well.
 
This was brought in for the lib--dems to be able to stand with tories and vice versa on a common platform of defence of the coalitions achievements. Still far more likely than a UKIP/tory lash up.


interesting comment on spectator that any ukip/tory hook up will probably lead to joint lib/lab candidates
 
this joint platform thing is probably one of the biggest changes in democray for a while , not really heard of it - don't see how it can really work without a recall mechanism
 
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