Cliff Richard is now Barbadian

[DotCommunist]

on the darknet maybe

 

[editor]

Interesting piece in the Independent.

The way the police have treated Cliff Richard is completely unacceptable
Due process has been subverted in a case that raises urgent questions on civil liberties

People believe that where there’s smoke there’s fire, but sometimes there is just a smoke machine.

By treating Cliff Richard as though he were a bank robber or a mass murderer, the police from Thames Valley and South Yorkshire, aided and abetted by the BBC and a Sheffield lay justice, have blasted his reputation around the world without giving him the first and most basic right to refute the allegation.

Last year, apparently, a complaint was made to police that the singer had indecently assaulted a youth in Sheffield a quarter of a century ago. The police had a duty to investigate, seek any corroborating evidence, and then – and only if they had reasonable grounds to suspect him of committing an offence – to give him the opportunity to refute those suspicions before a decision to charge is made.

But here, police subverted due process by waiting until Richard had left for vacation, and then orchestrating massive publicity for the raid on his house, before making any request for interview and before any question could arise of arresting or charging him.

Police initially denied “leaking” the raid, but South Yorkshire Police finally confirmed yesterday afternoon that they had been “working with a media outlet” – presumably the BBC – about the investigation. They also claimed “a number of people” had come forward with more information after seeing coverage of the operation – which leads one to suspect that this was the improper purpose behind leaking the operation in the first place. This alone calls for an independent inquiry.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...chard-is-completely-unacceptable-9672367.html

 

[tufty79]

I wonder if there was a jimmy savile forum.

Dunno, but 'justice for jimmy' are still doing their campaigny bollocks, it seems

 

[Jon-of-arc]

but this particular Cliff related video from fellow winemaker Chloe George is a bit of a shocker

In which she accuses David Cameron of being a "zionist cuntwaffle" after having sufferred years of "butt-fucking trauma" at the hands of his boarding school master (Cuntwaffle is an insult that needs to be used more often...) and offers him make-up tips...

 

[laptop]

I wonder if there was a jimmy savile forum.

There's this: http://twatter.com/group/the-jimmy-savile-fan-club


...which may not be sincere.

 

[butchersapron]

Who is this person and why does she find possible child abuse so hilarious? Should I know or care?

 

[Jon-of-arc]

probably not.

 

[Sprocket.]

Interesting piece in the

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...chard-is-completely-unacceptable-9672367.html

As I said in a earlier post the actions by South Yorkshire's finest will probably halt any possible criminal proceedings before all parties interviews are concluded. Not saying there have been any crimes committed of course.

 

[existentialist]

I love Wired For Sound:

"Wired For Sound" was, for me, the epitome of the Cliff-Attempts-To-Ride-The-Zeitgeist-And-Falls-Off-Every-Time phenomenon. See also his risible Christmas effort.

 

[Obnoxiousness]

Just an observation: Both Michael Jackson and Cliff Richard were widely perceived as being squeaky clean-cut artists who had the opposite persona of the darker, more sexually outspoken stars like Prince or David Bowie.

Just a question about this video: Was the lighting technician asleep when they recorded this one?

 

[gentlegreen]

I wonder if anyone has any stats for the average age of a Cliff Richard fan - from 1959 to the present ....
Surely he's not acquiring any new ones.

 

[Pickman's model]

Just an observation: Both Michael Jackson and Cliff Richard were widely perceived as being squeaky clean-cut artists who had the opposite persona of the darker, more sexually outspoken stars like Prince or David Bowie.

Just a question about this video: Was the lighting technician asleep when they recorded this one?

he's got all the stage personality of a dead donkey

cf bon scott

 

[Pickman's model]

3 people with less stage presence than cliff richard

jeremy bentham

tollund man

er... that's it

 

[elbows]

If the unsubstantiated rumours are to be believed, this publicised search should cause a few other victims to come forward, if it doesn't perhaps the rumours should be cleansed from the net!

In case you hadn't noticed, they can't actually cleanse the net. Recent things like the European verdict on the 'right to forget' stuff that Google are making a mess of do something, but they don't some close to a proper cleansing.

Internet rumours are substantially the same as historical rumours - you can't just wipe them away, you either ignore them or you do your best to refute and disprove them. And the ultimate prize is rarely the complete elimination of a rumour. Its taking all the momentum out of the rumour, and turning down or off the majorities interest or belief in the rumour. You'll never eliminate it completely though, some minority of believers will remain even if all the evidence points in another direction.

That the internet is capable of visibly sustaining things even if the above prize is won, is both a strength and a weakness. People who are the subject of rumours could probably carry on unscathed if its left with just a few wacky blogs dribbling about stuff, especially if they lack google juice. But twitter, and the relative ease with which things can make an appearance on trending lists and related search terms, is certainly a good example of how stuff that is no-go for the mainstream can still draw attention and lead to ludicrous situations where two narratives exist but one can't acknowledge the existence of the other. If recent years have been anything to go by, this causes frustration for those working in the media world, and probably adds a degree of energy to media reporting should a moment occur when they are able to disclose a story and/or strongly hint at things.

Sorry for going on, but I am always interested in how the internet fits into the gap between the worlds of rumour and media. The example I usually give is of the names of local 'criminal empire' families - something that may always have been common knowledge on the street, at least to quite a chunk of the local populace, but that you are unlikely to see in print until after their empire gets busted.

 

[weltweit]

But elbows what about the allegations about that retired tory politician and his reaction with his aggressive and methodical lawyer, see I have forgotten his name already the rumours must be cleansed!!

 

[brogdale]

3 people with less stage presence than cliff richard

jeremy bentham

tollund man

er... that's it

Er...I feel it would be for the greater good if you retracted that accusation against Jezzer.

 

[Pickman's model]

Er...I feel it would be for the greater good if you retracted that accusation against Jezzer.

does that look like jezza?

 

[brogdale]

does that look like jezza?

Oh Jesus, you didn't go to Kings did you?

 

[Pickman's model]

Oh Jesus, you didn't go to Kings did you?

i thought you meant the artist formerly known as red jezza.

but you can't say the late mr bentham's stage presence has improved since kings students played football with his head

 

[brogdale]

i thought you meant the artist formerly known as red jezza.

but you can't say the late mr bentham's stage presence has improved since kings students played football with his head

Ignorant wankers of Strand poly

 

[Pickman's model]

Ignorant wankers of Strand poly

it's alright ucl emasculated their bloody lion
and it's a long long time since anyone tried to nick phineas maclino

 

[discokermit]

"Wired For Sound" was, for me, the epitome of the Cliff-Attempts-To-Ride-The-Zeitgeist-And-Falls-Off-Every-Time phenomenon. See also his risible Christmas effort.

it's class. and written by b.a. robertson, not cliff, by the way.

 

[elbows]

it's alright ucl emasculated their bloody lion
and it's a long long time since anyone tried to nick phineas maclino

It is a little known fact that if you google image search phineas maclino, one of the mascot images you get is this:

 

[Pickman's model]

It is a little known fact that if you google image search phineas maclino, one of the mascot images you get is this:

so that's kicking at the pricks

 

[UrbaneFox]

You can’t beat a nice relaxing fish. A chance to take the worries of the world off your shoulders, toss them into the river, and watch as they drift dreamily downstream. A chance to truly feel at ease and at peace with the world. Not for Cliff. Look at those eyes. Harrowing.

I thought for a moment that you said Herring.

 

[seventh bullet]

In which she accuses David Cameron of being a "zionist cuntwaffle" after having sufferred years of "butt-fucking trauma" at the hands of his boarding school master (Cuntwaffle is an insult that needs to be used more often...) and offers him make-up tips...

Child rape, lol.

 

[Jon-of-arc]

Child rape, lol.

Who said I was laughing at childrape? I found her statements to be a mix of bizarre, vulgar, racist and homophobic. I do like "cunt waffle", though.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Er...I feel it would be for the greater good if you retracted that accusation against Jezzer.

You smeg-ridden utilitarian cunt! Next you'll be demanding that we give up perfectly good bodily organs so that Bentham can be brought back to life!

 

[ViolentPanda]

it's class. and written by b.a. robertson, not cliff, by the way.

I'm just trying to imagine Cliff recording something as ironic and suggestive as "Bang Bang", but I can't.

Looking back, even the stuff Cliff got song-writing credits for, he wrote with others. I wonder if Cliff was a bit "Colonel Tom Parker" about it, who demanded co-writing credits for Elvis as the price for his "boy" recording the song.

 

[D'wards]

Perhaps Cliff should cover Please Release Me, for his fans to get to number one!

I think, though I could be wrong, that he has had a number one in every decade since the 50's - If the charges are dropped, or he gets found not guilty this could propel him to his seventh in a row