Cars You Never See Anymore
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mx wcfc
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Yes, that's near Waterloo, just down from a fairly decent real ale pub called the King's Arms. Same road as ringo's postsmx wcfc : Is that Citroen parked up in a Waterloo (SE1) backstreet? There is, or was, a very small commercial garage nearby that specialises in those models. I use to see several of that time parked up near to each other round there when I lived/walked/cycled in the area ....
Classics of their time anyway
ETA : See also ringo 's post #442, page 15 of this thread
. Specialist garage nearby would explain it. 
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There is the Waterloo Classics meet as well of course; a very small meet, no more than 20 cars when I visited a while back, but it was a wet day. Waterloo Classics
ATOMIC SUPLEX
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Ah the king's arms. That was my local for many years.Yes, that's near Waterloo, just down from a fairly decent real ale pub called the King's Arms. Same road as ringo's posts
Puddy_Tat
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Ah, so it will be pre-1981 come 2021, cheers Puddy_Tat.
assuming that neither the rules for ULEZ or the rules for historic tax class get changed
incidentally, the historic tax class kicks in from the april after the vehicle's 40th birthday, not on the actual day (there is scope to argue about the date if you can prove vehicle was built some time before it was registered, which was allowed at one point in time if not now)
plurker
tú no tienes la culpa mi amor que el mundo sea feo
Both mine are 1988 registered, so a way off yet.
Is it the Kings Arms that's got a half-decent Thai food offering? Somewhere round there does - room out back with a big sunroof iirc
mx wcfc
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Yep, that's the one.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
While I was doing my hourly survey of the classifieds (you never know when that mint Reliant Scimitar GTE SE6 will appear) I found one these:
Sterling Nova. Now there's a car you never see anymore. The one I found had an Alfasud engine in place of the normal VW unit to add unreliability to its long list of undesirable characteristics.
Sterling Nova. Now there's a car you never see anymore. The one I found had an Alfasud engine in place of the normal VW unit to add unreliability to its long list of undesirable characteristics.
Is that the Saab that had some weird freewheel or coasting feature? My uncle had one and explained it to me at length while smoking a pipe and I didn't understand a word of it.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
The first gen 96s were two strokes so minimal engine braking anyway.
This is what my uncle was probably getting at:
"An unusual feature of the Saab drivetrain was a 'freewheel' (overrunning clutch). This allowed the transmission to run faster than the engine, such as when decelerating, or descending a long hill. Although such freewheels had been provided in other cars before as an economy measure,they were required in the Saab because of the limited lubrication in the two-stroke engine. A petroil-lubricated two-stroke requires lubrication according to its speed, but provides this lubrication according to the amount of its throttle opening. Where the engine operates at high RPM and low throttle (such as when coasting down a long hill), the lubrication provided may be inadequate. With the freewheel, a coasting engine could reduce its speed to idling, thus requiring only the small lubrication available from the closed, coasting, throttle. In certain higher-performance models and in later two-stroke models, direct injection of oil into the engine from a separate reservoir allowed lubrication to be a function of engine RPM and rendered mixing of oil with gasoline unnecessary.
Freewheeling was retained in the four-stroke variant, until the end of production and in the Saab 99 with the 1709 cc Triumph engine. A minor drawback to the freewheel, particularly for drivers unfamiliar with the Saab, is that it makes engine braking unavailable although it could be manually engaged or disengaged by a control in the foot-well. Fixed wheel engagement, using the foot, could be difficult, as it involved pulling a 'T handle' intended for manual operation"
Wikipedia though, so perhaps the electronic equivalent to my uncle.
PS He lived in Upper Cwmtwrch so this would have been a convenient way to get to Lower Cwmtwrch
"An unusual feature of the Saab drivetrain was a 'freewheel' (overrunning clutch). This allowed the transmission to run faster than the engine, such as when decelerating, or descending a long hill. Although such freewheels had been provided in other cars before as an economy measure,they were required in the Saab because of the limited lubrication in the two-stroke engine. A petroil-lubricated two-stroke requires lubrication according to its speed, but provides this lubrication according to the amount of its throttle opening. Where the engine operates at high RPM and low throttle (such as when coasting down a long hill), the lubrication provided may be inadequate. With the freewheel, a coasting engine could reduce its speed to idling, thus requiring only the small lubrication available from the closed, coasting, throttle. In certain higher-performance models and in later two-stroke models, direct injection of oil into the engine from a separate reservoir allowed lubrication to be a function of engine RPM and rendered mixing of oil with gasoline unnecessary.
Freewheeling was retained in the four-stroke variant, until the end of production and in the Saab 99 with the 1709 cc Triumph engine. A minor drawback to the freewheel, particularly for drivers unfamiliar with the Saab, is that it makes engine braking unavailable although it could be manually engaged or disengaged by a control in the foot-well. Fixed wheel engagement, using the foot, could be difficult, as it involved pulling a 'T handle' intended for manual operation"
Wikipedia though, so perhaps the electronic equivalent to my uncle.
PS He lived in Upper Cwmtwrch so this would have been a convenient way to get to Lower Cwmtwrch
nogojones
spelling is overrated
Yup. My old man had one and blew the engine after forgetting to put two stroke oil in.
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While I was doing my hourly survey of the classifieds (you never know when that mint Reliant Scimitar GTE SE6 will appear) I found one these:
Sterling Nova. Now there's a car you never see anymore. The one I found had an Alfasud engine in place of the normal VW unit to add unreliability to its long list of undesirable characteristics.
This might be the actual one that regularly drives round my neck of the woods. It's usually driven with the top off. Not the best car for driving around town.
weltweit
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I saw this today. Ok, it isn't strictly a car, it only has three wheels, and a few churns, but it isn't exactly a motorbike either.
It seems powered by a small 2 stroke engine, and was a one time milk deliverer.
eta: If anyone knows anything about it, do let me know.
It seems powered by a small 2 stroke engine, and was a one time milk deliverer.
eta: If anyone knows anything about it, do let me know.
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DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
It's a Dot Motor Truck powered by a 200cc Villiers two stroke. Dot was a British motorcycle manufacturer that went to well deserved oblivion in the 60s. Dot stood for "Devoid Of Trouble". In common with just about every other British motorcycle of the period they were anything but.
I once bought a crate at auction which allegedly contains all the vital organs of a Dot 250 Scrambler. I have never been sufficiently bored or depressed to consider reassembling it. I probably should as they go for mad money now.
I once bought a crate at auction which allegedly contains all the vital organs of a Dot 250 Scrambler. I have never been sufficiently bored or depressed to consider reassembling it. I probably should as they go for mad money now.
dessiato
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I've had the "pleasure" of driving one a number of times. They're not especially good driving machines, but they did the job, adequately. Damned by faint praise.View attachment 169282
Also not a car, but quite pleased to see this today, a Leyland Sherpa. Remember my team bringing one home from Wemberley twice back in the 80s
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DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
Some Beetle based kit car? Those are post 1968 "Type 1" VW wheels.
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Built by teachers/professors in Halle in the 70s on a beetle chassis as an experiment in reducing air resistance, for which they held some kind of world record.
Only two were built and the white one shown above is the same as the one in Idris2002 's photo. The photo is of when the two cars were together in 2017.
OzT
Online early mornings when at work ....
They're exempt if made before 1981 (not 100% on that date mind).
Been looking at 289 Mustangs for my V8 fix as the Chimaera may have to go if we're still in London come 2021. If not living in the sun at that point.
Whilst the Mustang is a good car, may I suggest a Holden HSV? I think it is much better value, more powerful car and so much better round corners than a Mustang, or just about any other performance v8 saloon car. Understated with heapsa aggro under the bonnet.
Hmm I put my bike regs in their site and it said No, even though they are pre 1973.
