Brexit survival guide: Stockpiling Food

[catinthehat]

I'm surprised that there has been little discussion about price rises which will undoubtedly accompany any (even slight) shortages. I attempted some math's using butter as a sample and work out the reduction in supply against the rise in price. Failed as bad at math's and got bored. I'm yet to be concerned about it in terms of possible shortages but am concerned about the impact of price rises, especially when we already have so many people in food poverty. I imagine interest rates and mortgage rises will tip a more into that position and its not going to help food bank supplies either. As always the people at the bottom of the pile will take the brunt of it and I bet there are zero government plans to deal with that - given they seem to have no plans to deal with anything. Eat the rich should now be considered a plan rather than a chant.

 

[kebabking]

I'm surprised that there has been little discussion about price rises which will undoubtedly accompany any (even slight) shortages. I attempted some math's using butter as a sample and work out the reduction in supply against the rise in price. Failed as bad at math's and got bored. I'm yet to be concerned about it in terms of possible shortages but am concerned about the impact of price rises, especially when we already have so many people in food poverty. I imagine interest rates and mortgage rises will tip a more into that position and its not going to help food bank supplies either. As always the people at the bottom of the pile will take the brunt of it and I bet there are zero government plans to deal with that - given they seem to have no plans to deal with anything. Eat the rich should now be considered a plan rather than a chant.

Wheat products will go up because of a very poor yeild this year due to the weather - yields are down something like 25/30% compared to the average. If the US and Canada have had reasonable yeilds then that's not overly problematic and we're only talking about a few % points, but if not then the price like will be higher.

Same with potatoes - unirrigated crops are well down, 50% and change wouldn't be an unreasonable guess.

Livestock has had to be fed and watered much more than usual - we had a dry winter, dry spring and dry summer, the question will be how much of that gets dumped on the farmers overdraft and how much goes through to the consumer.

 

[SheilaNaGig]

This video helped to focus my mind on this issue.

Even if most of it is alarmist to some degree or another, it’s informative about how reliant we are currently on the status quo.



One of my Facebook pals who voted to leave is a haulier. He’s gone very quiet on the issue in recent weeks.

 

[Badgers]

 

[isvicthere?]

Just saw this in the Guardian.

'I'm already stockpiling': readers preparing for a messy Brexit

Now, speaking as someone who did stockpile for the millennium bug, I've got form here. Which urbz are storing up (or planning to) supplies for the possible forthcoming sunlit-uplands-gone-a-little-awry scenario?

If I were still in Britain, I think I would be.

 

[cupid_stunt]

Now, speaking as someone who did stockpile for the millennium bug, I've got form here.

You didn't, surely?

 

[danny la rouge]

someone who did stockpile for the millennium bug

You did? Why? And what did you stock up on?

It's getting to the time of year when I start buying an extra tin here or there to make sure I'm well stocked for winter. But that's just an annual weather precaution. I like to know I can go a few days without having to go out if I have to.

I remember the Y2K bug scare. I have a friend who claims it wasn't a problem because people like him worked around the clock to make sure it wasn't. It reminds me of when Jehovah's witnesses say the end of the world didn't come because they prayed so good.

 

[Maggot]

Brexit survival guide: Stockpiling Food

 

[Pickman's model]

Tbh if things do go tits up after a no deal brexit I expect opportunities for free shopping so paying now for something that could be gratis later seems a mite daft

Turning to the millennium bug, I spent some months working at natwest's Goodman's fields site in 98, they had a big countdown display to the millennium saying they had to be millennium compliant by then. It was a great con by techies to get a great load of money.

 

[gentlegreen]

I always hoard tinned tomatoes in any case during the summer when they're 50p a can ... but perhaps I will raise my stock level this year.

 

[Pickman's model]

I always hoard tinned tomatoes in any case during the summer when they're 50p a can ... but perhaps I will raise my stock level this year.

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At sainsbury those or ciro tomatoes are always on special

 

[gentlegreen]

At sainsbury those or ciro tomatoes are always on special

Sadly I only have a small Tesco and an Aldi near me.
I hoard drinkable screwtop (French) wine whenever it appears.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Best hurry up

This is too many negatives strung together and I can't parse it at all.

 

[danny la rouge]

This is too many negatives strung together and I can't parse it at all.

I'm just trying to work my way through that.

"Dominic Raab fails to deny that we shouldn't be stockpiling food in preparation of a no deal Brexit .".

-> Dominic Raab might be expected to deny "that we shouldn't be stockpiling food in preparation of a no deal Brexit", but has failed to do so.

-> Dominic Raab is not contradicting the proposition "that we shouldn't be stockpiling food in preparation of a no deal Brexit".

-> Andrew Harwood implies that therefore Dominic Raab implicitly believes we should be stockpiling food in "preparation of* a no deal Brexit". (* for?)

-> Andrew Harwood is implicitly advising people to stockpile food "in preparation [for?] a no deal Brexit", based on something Dominic Raab failed to deny.

-> Andrew Harwood is stockpiling food but doesn't want readers to be able easily to work out what he's doing.

Phew. Got there.

 

[Libertad]

I'm just trying to work my way through that.

"Dominic Raab fails to deny that we shouldn't be stockpiling food in preparation of a no deal Brexit .".

-> Dominic Raab might be expected to deny "that we shouldn't be stockpiling food in preparation of a no deal Brexit", but has failed to do so.

-> Dominic Raab is not contradicting the proposition "that we shouldn't be stockpiling food in preparation of a no deal Brexit".

-> Andrew Harwood implies that therefore Dominic Raab implicitly believes we should be stockpiling food in "preparation of* a no deal Brexit". (* for?)

-> Andrew Harwood is implicitly advising people to stockpile food "in preparation [for?] a no deal Brexit", based on something Dominic Raab failed to deny.

-> Andrew Harwood is stockpiling food but doesn't want readers to be able easily to work out what he's doing.

Phew. Got there.

Thank you for that. Good work

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm just trying to work my way through that.

"Dominic Raab fails to deny that we shouldn't be stockpiling food in preparation of a no deal Brexit .".

-> Dominic Raab might be expected to deny "that we shouldn't be stockpiling food in preparation of a no deal Brexit", but has failed to do so.

-> Dominic Raab is not contradicting the proposition "that we shouldn't be stockpiling food in preparation of a no deal Brexit".

-> Andrew Harwood implies that therefore Dominic Raab implicitly believes we should be stockpiling food in "preparation of* a no deal Brexit". (* for?)

-> Andrew Harwood is implicitly advising people to stockpile food "in preparation [for?] a no deal Brexit", based on something Dominic Raab failed to deny.

-> Andrew Harwood is stockpiling food but doesn't want readers to be able easily to work out what he's doing.

Phew. Got there.

I dunno, 'x fails to deny y' implies x tacitly supports or agrees with y, which in this case is 'not stockpiling food'. So I think Raab is telling us not to stockpile food.

Panic over everyone, time to drop all that spam off at the food bank and continue to trust in late capitalism to provide for all your needs.

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I always hoard tinned tomatoes in any case during the summer when they're 50p a can ... but perhaps I will raise my stock level this year.

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You can get them cheaper than 50p a can in most places all the time, although some brands are more expensive.

Here you go gentlegreen - 30p a can.

 

[Pickman's model]

Sadly I only have a small Tesco and an Aldi near me.
I hoard drinkable screwtop (French) wine whenever it appears.

Order £60 of tomatoes from sainsbury for delivery

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Order £60 of tomatoes from sainsbury for delivery

If you bought the 30p cans, that would be 200 tins of tomatoes, or 80kg of tomatoes. Keep me going for a few weeks.

 

[danny la rouge]

If you bought the 30p cans, that would be 200 tins of tomatoes, or 80kg of tomatoes. Keep me going for a few weeks.

Or if you order from Waitrose, it's 30 tins. Which would be more manageable.

 

[gentlegreen]

You can get them cheaper than 50p a can in most places all the time, although some brands are more expensive.

Here you go gentlegreen - 30p a can.

I can get cheap tomatoes, but Napolina always seems to taste nicer.
I seem to have about 50 cans

 

[farmerbarleymow]

I can get cheap tomatoes, but Napolina always seems to taste nicer.
I seem to have about 50 cans

Good man - you can never have too many tins of tomatoes.

 

[jontz01]

There was a millennium complaint holographic sticker on the hand dryer at Stoke College. Someone was laughing all the way to the bank/pub.

 

[Epona]

The sky is falling, the sky is falling...

 

[Dan U]

It's fresh goods that will be at risk not tinned and dried products, according to a mate of mine who is senior at a FMCG company.

He reckons we might experience short term empty shelves on products manufacturered abroad due to delays in the supply chain, but if one mayonnaise isn't available other brands are available.

The real problem will be the supply chain for our fresh meat, fruit and veg and the additional cost on all products that may arise from added complications in the supply chain.

Which you can't stockpile for really unless you are in to hedging the price of your tins of tomatoes

 

[Nine Bob Note]

I'm usually pretty well stocked up on packets and tins as everything gets bought when on offer, but reckon I'll be making some space in the freezer for emergency cheese, as that's expected to be worst hit by price rises and any potential shortages

 

[UnderOpenSky]

Could the pound collapse afterwards? If so then energy costs could get brutal. Maybe time to install a wood burner?

 

[isvicthere?]

You did? Why? And what did you stock up on?
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Mainly tinned stuff. I had baked beans until about 2004.

That, and loads of 5L bottles of water. Easily used when Armageddon didn't happen.

 

[danny la rouge]

Did you think computers controlled the taps back then?

 

[farmerbarleymow]

Did you think computers controlled the taps back then?

They probably controlled pumping stations so if they went offline the taps could run dry.